Database Senate Hansard
Date 12-10-1910
Parl No. 4
Electorate Queensland
Interjector GUTHRIE, Robert
GOULD, Albert
STORY, William
Speaker ST LEDGER, Anthony
System Id hansard80/hansards80/1910-10-12/0045


Senator ST LEDGER (Queensland) . - I move -

That the following words be inserted after sub-clause 1 : - " Provided that this sub-section shall not apply in the case of ships built or in course of construction before the passing of this Act."

It seems only fair that notice should be given to ship-owners that the requirements specified in the clause will apply to vessels built hereafter. But there are some vessels already trading on our coast which have not transverse watertight partitions; and there are a fair number that have not watertight false bottoms. Especially is that so in the limited coast-trade. The owners of those ships are entitled to some notice. Unless the regulations carry out the intention of my amendment, a large number of ships will be driven out of the trade.

Senator Lt.-Colonel Sir ALBERTGOULD (New South Wales) [8.8].- A large number of ships engaged in the coasting trade have not watertight false bottoms. Indeed, I doubt whether any of them are so fitted. I see no objection to the provision as to transverse watertight partitions. I think that most of our ships are so constructed. But a number of ships have been built during the last few years, and contracts have been entered into for the construction of other vessels for the coasting trade. Some of them' are larger than any ships that we have at present engaged in the trade. It would only be reasonable that Senator St. Ledger's proviso should apply to them.

Senator Guthrie - The ship-owners, when they ordered those ships, knew that this provision was before Parliament, and that there was a probability of its being carried.

Senator Lt Colonel Sir ALBERT GOULD .- Ships ordered within the last few years have naturally been built in accordance with the requirements of the law that has hitherto applied, and in accordance with British law as it exists to-day. It is a very serious thing, after giving an order for a ship that is to cost £60,000 or £70,000, to have to go to the builder, and require him to make important alterations. It is only reasonable that this clause should not apply to ships that have been built under the existing law, or which have Lloyd's certificates.

Senator Story - Vested interests !

Senator Lt Colonel Sir ALBERT GOULD - Yes, vested interests. If a man has put a large sum of money into an industry he is entitled to fair consideration. I shall never be found refusing to recognise a vested interest that has been fairly and honestly created, and which is not used for dishonest purposes.

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