Title SJ No 12 - 13 June 1901
Database Senate Journals
Date 13-06-1901
Source Senate
Parl No. 1
Number 12
Status Final
System Id chamber/journalshistorical/1901-06-13


SJ No 12 - 13 June 1901

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COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA.

No. 12.

JOUENALS OF THE SENATE.

THURSDAY, 13th JUNE, 1901.

1. M eeting of S enate.— The Senate met pursuant to adjournment.

2. P etition.—Senator Macfarlane presented a Petition (No. 4) from John Russell, Clerk of Assembly of the Presbyterian Church, Tasmania, praying that the Post Office may not be used in aid of gambling. Petition received.

3. China F ield F orce.— Lieut.-Col. Sir F. T. Sargood, pursuant to notice, called the attention of the Postmaster-General to the fact that, on Thursday last (on which date both Houses were sitting), an important letter from “ The Lieut.-General Commanding the British Contingent, China Field Force,” to “ the Prime Minister of the Australian Commonwealth,” was read in the House of Representatives upon the motion of the Right Honorable the Prem ier; and asked why the said letter was not also laid upon the Table of the Senate on the same date. The Postmaster-General replied—The Government agree with the honorable member’s desire that,

in general, papers which are of sufficient importance to be read in Parliament, shall be read in both Houses unless they relate exclusively to the business of either House, and that course will be followed in future. Instructions have been given that all copies of papers laid on the Table of one House only, shall be circulated amongst members of the other. The Government will take care that no undue preference is shown in this matter to either branch

of the Legislature.

4. B ills— P unctuation.— Senator Higgs, pursuant to notice, asked the Postmaster-General—Will the Government give instructions that all Bills be punctuated. The Postmaster-General replied—The Attorney-General has given instructions that all Bills be punctuated.

5. Commonwealth B ookkeeping.— Senator Lieut.-Col. Sir F. T. Sargood, pursuant to notice asked the Postmaster-General whether it is the intention of the Government to appoint, at an early date, a small committee of qualified business men and professional accountants to prepare a proper system of bookkeeping to be used by the Commonwealth. The Postmaster-General replied—I am informed by the Treasurer that it is not intended to appoint

such a Committee. The system of bookkeeping to be used will be devised by officers of large experience in Government Accounts.

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6. M essage, H ouse of R epresentatives (Supply B ill).—The following Message from the House of Representatives was received and read :— M r. P resident : The House of Representatives transmits to the Senate a Bill intituled “ An Act to apply out of the Commonwealth Consolidated Revenue Fund the sum of Four hundred and ninety-one thousand eight hundred and eighty-two pounds to the service o f the period ending the thirtieth day oj June, One thousand nine hundred and one,” with which it desires the concurrence of the

Senate.

F. W. HOLDER,

House of Representatives, Speaker.

Melbourne, 12th June, 1901.

7. Supply B ill.— The Postmaster-General moved, That the Supply Bill be πολύ read a first time. Question—put and passed. Bill read a first time.

8. Suspension of Standing Orders.—The Postmaster-General, pursuant to contingent notice, moved—· That the Standing Orders be suspended to enable the Bill to pass through all its remaining stages without delay. Debate ensued. The Postmaster-General moved, That the debate be now adjourned. Debate ensued. Question—put and passed. The Postmaster-General moved, That the adjourned debate be an Order of the Day for to-morrow. Debate ensued. Question—put and passed.

9. Supply B ill.— The Postmaster-General moved, That the Bill be printed, and the second reading be an Order of the Day for to-morrow. Debate ensued. I t being half-past four o’clock, the Orders of the Day were called on by the Clerk. Debate on the question interrupted by the Orders of the Day being called on, resumed. Question—put and passed.

10. P aper— E stimates.— The Postmaster-General laid on the Table the following paper, viz.:— Estimates of Expenditure, 1901. Ordered to be printed.

11. P ost and T elegraph B ill.— On the Order of the Day being read for the adjourned debate on the question—That the Post and Telegraph Bill be now read a second time, Debate resumed.

12. Suspension of S itting.·—A t half-past six p.m. the sitting of the Senate was suspended till half-past seven.

13. R esumption of Sitting.— At half-past seven p.m. the sitting of the Senate was resumed.

14. P ost and T elegraph B ill.— Debate on the question—interrupted by the suspension of the s ittin g -resumed. Question—put and passed.—Bill read a second time. On the question—That the President do now leave the Chair, and the Senate resolve itself into a

Committee of the Whole for the consideration of this Bill—The Postmaster-General moved an amendment, viz., to add to the question, “ and that Senator Best do take the Chair for this sitting on this Bill.” Debate ensued. Senator Higgs moved an amendment to the proposed amendment, viz., to leave out “ Senator Best,” with a view to insert in lieu thereof “ the President.” Question—That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the proposed amendment—put. The Senate divided—

Ayes, 14.

Sir R. C. Baker Mr. Barrett Dobson Sir J. W. Downer Mr. Drake

Ferguson Fraser Glassey Major Gould Mr. Harney

Macfarlane Lieut.-Col. Sir F. T. Sargood Sir W. A. Zeal.

Noes, 14.

Mr. Charleston Dawson De Largie Higgs McGregor Lieut.-Col. Neikl Mr. O’Keefe

Pearce Playford Pulsford Smith Stewart Sir J. H. Symon.

Teller. Teller.

Mr. Walker.

The number of the Ayes and Noes being equal, And so it passed in the negative.

Mr. Keating.

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Question—That the words proposed to he inserted be inserted—put. The Senate divided— Ayes, 13. Mr. Charleston

Dawson De Largie Higgs McGregor

O’Keefe Pearce Playford Pulsford

Smith Stewart

Sir J. H. Symon.

Teller.

Mr. Keating.

Noes, 15.

Sir K C. Baker Mr. Barrett Dobson Sir J. W. Downer Mr. Drake

Ferguson Fraser Glassey

Major Gould Mr. Harney Macfarlane Lieut.-Col. Neild

Lieut.-Col. Sir F. T. Sargood Sir W. A. Zeal.

Teller.

Mr. Walker.

And so it passed in the negative. Senator Gould moved a further amendment, viz., to insert “ Senator Dobson.” Question—That the words proposed to be inserted be inserted—put and passed. Question—That the amendment as amended be agreed to—proposed. Senator Symon moved a further amendment to the amendment as amended, viz., to leave out the

words “ for this sitting,” with the view to insert in lieu thereof “ temporarily until permanent Standing Orders are adopted by the Senate on the report of the Committee appointed to prepare the same.” Question—That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the proposed amendment—put and

negatived. Question—That the words proposed to be inserted be inserted—put and passed. Main question, as amended—That the President do now leave the Chair, and the Senate resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole for the consideration of this Bill, and that Senator Dobson do take

the Chair temporarily, until permanent Standing Orders are adopted by the Senate on the report of the Committee appointed to prepare the same, on this Bill—put and passed. The Senate, according to order, resolved itself into a Committee for the consideration of the Bill. In the Committee—

Clause 1 amended and agreed to. Clause 2 read.

To report progress and ask leave to sit again. The President resumed the Chair, and Senator Dobson, from the Committee, reported that the Committee had considered the Bill and had made progress, and asked leave to sit again. Ordered—That the Committee have leave to sit again to-morrow.

15. S ervice and E xecution of P rocess B ill.— The Postmaster-General, pursuant to notice, moved, That he have leave to introduce a Bill for an Act to provide for the Service and Execution throughout the Commonwealth of the Civil and Criminal Process, and the Judgments of the Courts of the States and of other parts of the Commonwealth, and for other purposes connected therewith. Question—put and passed. Bill presented and read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Wednesday next.

16. State L aws and B ecords E ecognition B ill.—The Postmaster-General, pursuant to notice, moved, That he have leave to introduce a Bill for an Act to provide for the recognition throughout the Commonwealth of the Laws, the Public Acts and Records, and the Judicial Proceedings, of the States. Question—put and passed. Bill presented, read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Wednesday next.

17. A djournment.— The Senate adjourned at thirty-five minutes past nine p.m. until to-morrow at half­ past ten a.m.

18. A ttendance.— Present, all the Members except Senators Lieut.-Col. Cameron, Clemons, Matheson Millen, O’Connor, and Styles.

E. G. BLACKMORE, Clerk of the Parliaments.

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