Database Senate Hansard
Date 10-11-1921
Parl No. 8
Electorate South Australia
Interjector WILSON, Reginald
GLASGOW, William
PAYNE, Herbert
Speaker SENIOR, William
System Id hansard80/hansards80/1921-11-10/0066


Senator SENIOR (South Australia) . - I move -

That the word "salary" (first occurring) in sub-clause 1 be left out with a view to insert in lieu thereof the word "pay".

Senator Wilson - What is the difference between pay and salary?

Senator SENIOR - There is a great deal of difference. Whatever an officer receives in lieu of, or in addition to, salary is pay. Salary would be the total amount received in cash, but pay includes certain privileges which are taken into consideration as part of an officer's remuneration. Salary simply means the cash payment for services rendered. An officer does not receive salary if he is on sick pay. In many instances officers receive so much in salary, and also allowances in the form of fuel and light.

Senator Sir Thomas Glasgow - Those are allowances.

Senator SENIOR - But those privileges are counted in fixing the salaries. Officers in South Australia, who were transferred from the State to the Commonwealth, had a number of privileges which they had to forfeit, and that is equivalent to a reduction of pay.

Senator Sir Thomas Glasgow - They get allowances because they go to certain districts.

Senator SENIOR - No. The allowances are part of the pay. A postmaster in South Australia prior to 1900 received so much salary and quarters, as well as light and fuel. He got a certain commission on money received, by him on behalf of the State Savings Bank. Those additional amounts were not part of the direct salary. I want the privileges, which go to make up the salary, to be counted as pay.

Senator Wilson - If a man is absent on leave, on full pay, do you contend that the coal and lighting allowance should be made up to him?

Senator SENIOR - No.

Senator Drake-Brockman - An officer would howl about it if his leave was taken away.

Senator SENIOR - As part of his duties, he is supposed to be the servant of his Department, even when he is on leave. Would the honorable senator like his parliamentary allowance to be stopped if he were absent?

Senator Drake-Brockman - I would be delighted if I did not get another cheque for my parliamentary duties. It would be better if none of us received payment.

Senator SENIOR - The honorable senator saysthat because he has other means of livelihood; but senators who devote the whole of their time to their parliamentary duties cannot be expected to bold that view. The difference between the salary an officer receives and the full amount of his pay is considered in connexion with seniority when promotions are to be made;

Senator Sir Thomas Glasgow - Does not a man who is supplied with quarters receive the same sum as is provided under his classification, and does he not have a certain sum deducted for his quarters?

Senator SENIOR - There are some cases where privileges are granted because of the position in which an officer is located. A person transferred to the Northern Territory may be regarded as receiving a certain salary, whereas, in addition to that salary, he is enjoying certain privileges for being in a remote part of the Commonwealth.

Senator Sir Thomas Glasgow - He receives privileges because he has been sent to the Northern Territory.

Senator SENIOR - In considering promotion, privileges should be counted in conjunction with salary.

Senator Payne - Would you add to that pay the value of the house in which an officer may be living?

Senator SENIOR - The salary only wouldbe calculated.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Amendment (by Senator Russell) agreed to -

That the words " Governor-General may on the recommendation of the Board", sub-clause (1), be left out, with a view to insert in lieu thereof the words " Board may ".

Amendment (by Senator Senior) proposed -

That the word " salary ", first occurring in sub-clause (1), be left out, with a view to insert in lieu thereof the word " pay ".

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