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Wednesday, 20 September 1972
Page: 990

Senator YOUNG (SOUTH AUSTRALIA) - My question is addressed to the Minister for Air! Following the tabling of the manifests, of VIP flights 1 now. ask the Minister whether hecan say what, were the differences in cost between the VIP flight used by Mr Barnard, the Deputy Leader of the. Opposition in the other place, to visit Woomera in South Australia on 3rd and 4th August, and that used on 3rd August by the Minister for Immigration, Dr Forbes, to open an aged persons home complex at Ceduna in South Australia, whose flight was criticised by the honourable member for Sturt, Mr Foster, at that time.

Senator DRAKE-BROCKMAN - In answer to a question some time ago on the use of a VIP aircraft by Dr Forbes I replied in this place that the cost of that flight was $1,379, worked out on a formula applying to the HS-748 aircraft, which he used, of $157 an hour. At the same time I indicated that Mr Barnard had used an aircraft on 2 occasions but I did not go into the details. Because of the controversy at the time I took out figures for both trips. The one referred to by the honourable senator cost $2,716. Mr Barnard used a Mystere aircraft which, according to the formula, costs $367 an hour. I want to be perfectly fair to both these members by saying that an applicant for an VIP aircraft has no control over the type of aircraft that he is given as that depends on the aircraft that are available and the number of passengers whom the applicant asks to carry in the aircraft.

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