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Thursday, 14 September 1972
Page: 809

The PRESIDENT - Last night I listened intently to Senator Cavanagh's argument put during the debate on the motion for the adjournment of the Senate. I believe that the comity of Senate life requires me to make this explanation. 1 spent some time last night and this morning considering the argument advanced by the honourable senator and therefore I make the following statement: lt is a long established practice that time occupied in raising and determining points of order is included in the time allowed to an honourable senator to speak. In other words, no allowance is made in the time allowed to an honourable senator to speak for that portion of his time taken by the raising and considering of points of order. On Tuesday evening Senator Georges commenced his speech at 9.44 p.m. Points of order were taken and a matter of order was still under consideration at 10.30 p.m. when the question for the adjournment of the Senate was due to be put. Because of the nature of the matter of order I deemed it proper to delay the question for the adjournment until the matter of order was resolved.

There can be no doubt that, in accordance with practice, the time occupied by points of order up to 10.30 p.m. must be included in the one hour allowed for Senator Georges' speech. However, as the time taken after 10.30 p.m. was outside the normal debating time and was for the purpose only of finalising the matter of order I think it is fair in all the circumstances, and after listening to Senator Cavanagh last night, to rule that Senator Georges' time should be calculated to 10.30 p.m. On that basis Senator Georges has 14 more minutes before his time expires. I so rule.

Senator O'Byrne - I seek leave of the Senate to make a statement relating to the conduct of the Senate.

The PRESIDENT - Is leave granted? There being no objection leave is granted.

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