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Thursday, 31 October 1912

Senator PEARCE (Western AustraliaMinister cif Defence) . - Senator

Guthrie says that under this clause a seaman would not be able to give twenty-four hours' notice to leave- . the ship, and might be taken to sea . again' against his wish. But that situation could not arise under the clause, which relates to the termination of the agreement. Consequently the seaman could not be taken to sea again. Every honorable senator ought to be well seized of the fact that what is here proposed is the present practice. Did Senator Guthrie never hear of the agreement in respect of the steamship Karoola, belonging to Mcllwraith, McEacharn and Company? This is an agreement between the employer and the seamen, who belong to a union of which Senator Guthrie is the president. The agreement provides -

The several persons whose names are hereto subscribed . . . are engaged as sailors, and hereby agree to serve on board the said ship in the several capacities expressed against their respective names on a voyage from Melbourne to any port or ports in the Australian States trading to and fro in any succession of voyages for a period not extending beyond the 31st day of December, 1912, or until the first arrival at Melbourne after the expiry of that time, and the discharge of cargo consequent upon such arrival.

Senator Guthrie - That is not an award of the Court; it is a copy of the ship's articles.

Senator PEARCE - It is an agreement to which Senator Guthrie's own union have not. objected, and under which men are working to-day. We are simply giving effect to the practice in regard to our coastal shipping.

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