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Tuesday, 12 December 1911

Senator RAE (New South Wales) . - Sub-clause 2 of clause 5 provides that the Public Service Commissioner, and the Minister in charge of a Department affected by a claim, may be represented in any proceedings before the Court either jointly or separately.

Senator Millen - But under this amendment they would have to be represented gratuitously.

Senator RAE - Not necessarily. I take it that if this clause is amended as proposed, it will be governed by sub-clause 2 of clause 5. I believe that the words " or paid agent " would be interpreted as only referring to a person specially paid for this particular purpose, and would not apply to an officer whose payment for other services would continue while he was doing this particular work.

Senator E J RUSSELL (VICTORIA) - The amendment might impose a limitation upon the men whom the organizations could select for this work.

Senator RAE - In New South Wales recently men who have, for one reason or another, been struck off the rolls are trying to do business as experts in this kind of work. I need not mention any names, but I know of one or two such persons as I have referred to who have made a practice of this business for some time. If the attendance of a lawyer is undesirable, the attendance of a man who has been untrue to that profession - easy as it must be to be true to it considering its character - would be still more undesirable.

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