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Thursday, 2 November 1911

Senator DE LARGIE (Western Australia) . - I offer no opinion as to conscientious reasons that advanced by various sects concerning this Bill. Senator Gardiner has opened up a very big question ; but to provide for such persons would require a whole clause, which would have to be very carefully drafted. I have risen to offer an opinion on the question of the use of the words " may " and " shall." Whilst I am in accord with the principle of compulsory enrolment, I should certainly oppose the insertion of the word " shall " in this sub-clause, because the effect of it would be that the provision as to the infliction of a fine would be made quite rigid. It would have to be imposed even when there had been no attempt to avoid enrolment.

Senator Millen - The insertion of the word " shall " would not enforce the fine. That would rest with the magistrate.

Senator DE LARGIE - There may be instances where enrolment will be very difficult. In other cases, good cause may be shown why a person has failed to enrol. In such instances to say that a fine "shall " be inflicted would be unnecessarily harsh.

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