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Thursday, 11 October 1973
Page: 2031

The CHAIRMAN - Order! If the honourable member for Wannon would remain silent I will manage affairs in the chamber. I suggest to the honourable member for Casey that if he has anything to say in the debate he should do so in the proper manner.

Mr STALEY - We on this side of the chamber have always admired Professor Karmel. He had good people working with him. It was never our point to cast smears. Those people had their riding orders. They had their instructions. That is why they had to fall as they attempted to travel the course.

In putting these amendments we are attempting to achieve two basic things. Firstly, we want to ensure a co-operative Federal approach. We can understand that that is not necessarily attractive to the Labor Government because we know that it is dedicated to a mindless centralism. This is the sort of action which we will take again and again in this place as long as this old-fashioned mindless centralism is put up to us. All we are attempting to ensure is that those who are most closely and deeply involved are institutionally involved at the highest levels of advice to the Government right through the whole system of education, extending beyond the State Education departments and into the independent sector involving parents, groups and also teacher groups. This is what we are after: We are after a co-operative Federal approach and the forced participation of the affected groups at the highest level of advice to government. We are not suggesting for one moment that the ultimate responsibility of government should be usurped but we want to see this participatory approach adopted at the highest level.

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