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Wednesday, 15 August 1906


Mr DEAKIN (Ballarat) (Minister of External Affairs) . - I feel, of course, that we are submitting a proposal which requires a good deal of further consideration. At present we are dealing with a schedule, which, if agreed to, becomes a schedule to a Bill yet to be submitted. If on further examination honorable members think that there is any imperfection in the proposal, they will still have it in their power to remedy it. The Committee can add just what it pleases. We are dealing here with the titles which we propose to confer upon certain liquids. We refer to blended wine brandy and grain brandy. But other brandies are not excluded.


Mr DUGALD THOMSON (NORTH SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Why not also say " blended sugar brandy " ?


Mr DEAKIN - That can be done, but it will not be possible for manufacturers to apply those names which are appropriated by Act, and for which labels are assigned, to other brandy. Outside these brandy may be made from any spirit whatever, if it is matured for two years in the wood. There is nothing but the taste and judgment of the public to guide them as to which liquor they will consume. We start with brandy at ios., wine brandy us., grain brandy 12s. ; and then we come to all the other brandies or whiskies from whatever they may be manufactured.


Mr DUGALD THOMSON (NORTH SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Can they be called brandies?


Mr DEAKIN - They can be, but the manufacturers cannot use the labels that will be specified in the Act. They can use any other names of their own. There will be a label which can be applied only to the compound to which it is assigned.


Mr JOSEPH COOK (PARRAMATTA, NEW SOUTH WALES) - I can conceive of nothing which will tend so much to the popularization of inferior stuff as that; it gives manufacturers the privilege of labelling their compounds as brandies.


Mr Isaacs - It does not give them any privilege.


Mr DEAKIN - No one has ever been refused the right to attach the name brandy to whatever he wishes to sell as brandy ; but it rests with the public to say whether they will buy it or will not. That liberty is not diminished in the slightest degree by what we propose; but such brandies cannot be sold under the special titles that will be legalized. There are to be labels authorized by the Act, and I will ask honorable members to wait until they see the Bill and the labels before they decide that there is any unfairness in what is proposed.







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