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1968

THE PARLIAMENT OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA

JOURNALS OF THE SENATE No. 50

THURSDAY, 10 OCTOBER 1968

1 M eeting of Senate: The Senate met at eleven a.m., pursuant to adjournment. The President (Senator the Honourable Sir Alister McMullin) took the Chair.

2 PRAYERS. 3 Q uestions: Questions on notice were answered.

4 Papers: The following Papers were presented, pursuant to Statute: Australian Tourist Commission Act—First Report of the Australian Tourist Commission, together with financial statements and the Auditor-General’s Report thereon, for period 23 May 1967 to 30 June 1968. Medical Research Endowment Act—Thirtieth Annual Report of the National

Health and Medical Research Council, for 1967. 5 Privilege—Statement by P resident: The President referred to a question asked by Senator Keeffe on 9 October 1968 as to whether a letter relating to the siting of the permanent Parliament House and circulated to members of the Parliament by the

Royal Australian Institute of Architects constituted contempt of Parliament. He stated that it was not for the President to rule as to whether any breach of privilege had been committed, that being a matter for the Senate itself to determine. 6 Personal Explanation : Senator Cormack, by leave, made a personal explanation relating to a speech he had made during the debate on the adjournment of the Senate on Wednesday, 9 October 1968. 7 P ostponement: Ordered, on the motion of the Minister for Supply (Senator Anderson)— That Government Business, Orders of the Day Nos 5 to 10 be postponed until after the consideration of Orders of the Day Nos 11 and 12. 8 L eave of A bsence: Senator O’Byrne moved, by leave—That Senator Dittmer be granted leave of absence for two months on account of absence overseas. Question—put and passed. 9 E lectoral D ivisions of Q ueensland—P roposed Redistribution: Order of the Day read for the adjourned debate on the motion by the Minister for Customs and Excise (Senator Scott)—That the Senate approves of the redistribution of the State of Queensland into Electoral Divisions as proposed by Messrs I. F. Weise, E. F. Lane and E. Smith, the Commissioners appointed for the purpose of redistributing the said State into Divisions, in their Report laid before the Senate on the 18th day of September, 1968, and that the names of the Divisions suggested in the Report, and indicated in the map referred to therein, be adopted—And on the amendment moved thereto by Senator Georges—Leave out all words after “That”, insert “the Senate disapproves of the distribution of the State of Queensland into Electoral Divisions as proposed by the Distribution Commissioners, for the reasons stated in the dissent expressed by the Chairman of the Commissioners, Mr I. F. Weise, Commonwealth Electoral Officer for Queensland, and requests the Minister to refer back to the Commissioners the redistribution of the State of Queensland into Electoral Divisions for a fresh distribution.”

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Debate resumed.

Question—That the words proposed to be left out be left out—put. The Senate divided—

AYes, 26 N oes, 24

S e n a to r — S e n a to r— S e n a to r— S e n a to r—

B is h o p M illin e r A n d e rs o n M a r r io tt

B y rn e M ulvihiU B ull M a u n s e ll

C a n t M u r p h y B u ttfie ld R a e

C a v a n a g h O rm o n d e C o r m a c k R a n k in , D a m e

D e v itt P o k e D a v id s o n A n n a b e lle

D r u ry P o y s e r D ra k e -B ro c k m a n S c o tt

F itz g e ra ld R id le y G re e n w o o d S im

G a ir W h e e ld o n L a u c k e W e d g w o o d , D a m e

G e o rg e s W ilk in so n L a u g h t Iv y

H e n d ric k s o n W illese e L a w rie W ith e rs

K eeffe W rie d t L illi c o W rig h t

L a c e y M c K e lla r Y o u n g

L ittle T e ller: M c M u llin , S ir T e ller:

M c C le lla n d S e n a to r O ’B y m e A lis te r S e n a to r C o tto n

And so it was resolvedpn thefaffirmative. Question—That the words proposed to be inserted be inserted— Senator Gair moved an amendment to the words proposed to be inserted, viz.: Leave out all words after “Distribution Commissioners”, insert “for the following reasons:

(a) a major dissent was presented by the Chairman of the Commissioners Mr I. F. Weise, Commonwealth Electoral Officer for Queensland; (b) the rejection of the proposed redistribution by the Senate empowers the Minister to refer the proposal back to the Commissioners for reconsideration; (c) the Senate is of the opinion that the proposal should be reconsidered by the

Commissioners, with a view if possible to arrival at a unanimous decision; and (d) the Senate is of the opinion that the Minister should when empowered by the decision of the Senate so refer the proposal back to the Commissioners and so requests him”. Question—That the words proposed to be left out be left out—put. The Senate divided—

Ayes, 26 N oes, 24

S e n a to r — S e n a to r — S e n a to r — S e n a to r—

B is h o p M illin e r A n d e rs o n M a rr io tt

B y rn e M ulvihiU B u ll M a u n s e ll

C a n t M u r p h y B u ttfie ld R a e

C a v a n a g h O rm o n d e C o rm a c k R a n k in , D a m e

D e v itt P o k e ' D a v id s o n A n n a b e lle

D r u r y P o y se r D ra k e -B ro c k m a n S c o tt

F itz g e ra ld R id le y G re e n w o o d S im

G a ir W h e e ld o n L a u c k e W e d g w o o d , D a m e

G e o r g e s H e n d ric k s o n

W ilk in so n L a u g h t Iv y

W illese e L a w rie W ith e rs

K eeffe W rie d t L illico W rig h t

L a c e y M c K e lla r Y o u n g

L ittle T e ller: M c M u llin , Sir T e ller:

M c C le lla n d S e n a to r O ’B y m e A liste r S e n a to r C o tto n

And so it Was resolved in the affirmative. Question proposed—That the words proposed to be inserted be inserted (Senator Gair’s amendment).

Debate continued. Question—put.

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The Senate divided—

Ayes, 26 N obs, 24

S e n a to r— S e n a to r— S e n a to r— S e n a to r—

B ish o p M c C le lla n d A n d e rs o n M a rr io tt

B y rn e M illin e r B ull M a u n se ll

C a n t M ulvihiU B u ttfie ld R a e

C a v a n a g h M u rp h y C o rm a c k R a n k in , D a m e

D e v itt O rm o n d e D a v id s o n A n n a b e lle

D r u ry P o k e D r a k e - B r o c k m a n S c o tt

F itz g e ra ld P o y se r G re e n w o o d S im

G a ir R id le y L a u c k e W e d g w o o d , D a m e

G e o rg e s W h e e ld o n L a u g h t Ivy H e n d ric k s o n W ilk in so n W ith e rs

K eeffe W rie d t L a w rie W rig h t

K e n n e lly L illico Y o u n g

L a c e y T e ller: M c K e lla r

L ittle S e n a to r O ’B y rn e M c M u llin , S ir

A liste r

T e lle r:

S e n a to r C o tto n

And so it was resolved in the affirmative. Question—That the words proposed to be inserted, as amended, be inserted—put and passed. Question—That the motion, as amended, be agreed to—put and passed.

10 Electoral D ivisions of South A ustralia—Proposed R edistribution: Order of the Day read for the adjourned debate on the motion by the Minister for Customs and Excise (Senator Scott)—That the Senate approves of the redistribution of the State of South Australia into Electoral Divisions as proposed by Messrs A. J. Walsh, H. A. Bailey and A. R. Kopp, the Commissioners appointed for the purpose of redistributing the said State into Divisions, in their Report laid before the Senate on the 18th day of September, 1968, and that the names of the Divisions suggested in the Report, and indicated in the map referred to therein be adopted, except that the name “Hawker” be substituted for “Holder” . Question—put and passed.

11 E lectoral D ivisions of W estern A ustralia—P roposed Redistribution : Order of the Day read for the adjourned debate on the motion by the Minister for Customs and Excise (Senator Scott)—That the Senate approves of the redistribution of the State of Western Australia into Electoral Divisions as proposed by Messrs L. J. Abbott, H. Camm and J. W. Robson, the Commissioners appointed for the purpose of redis­ tributing the said State into Divisions, in their Report laid before the Senate on the

18th day of September, 1968, and that the names of the Divisions suggested in the Report, and indicated in the map referred to therein, be adopted. Question—put and passed.

12 E lectoral D ivisions of T asmania—P roposed R edistribution: Order o f the Day read for the adjourned debate on the motion by the Minister for Customs and Excise (Senator Scott)—That the Senate approves of the redistribution of the State of Tasmania into Electoral Divisions as proposed by Messrs J. M. Windsor, F. Miles and Μ. E. Young, the Commissioners appointed for the purpose of redistributing the said State into Divisions, in their Report laid before the Senate on the 18th day of September, 1968, and that the names of the Divisions suggested in the Report, and indicated in the map referred to therein, be adopted. Question—put and passed.

13 R epatriation (Special O verseas Service) Bill 1968: Order of the Day read for the adjourned debate on the Question—That this Bill be now read a second time. Debate resumed. Question—put and passed. Bill read a second time,

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The Minister for Repatriation (Senator McKellar) moved, by leave—That it be an instruction to the Committee of the Whole on the Repatriation (Special Overseas Service) Bill 1968 to consider a further amendment to section 7 of the Principal Act. Question—put and passed. The Senate, according to Order, resolved itself into Committee for the consideration

of the Bill.

In the Committee

Bill, by leave, taken as a whole. On the motion of Senator McKellar the following amendment was made, viz.: Page 2, clause 4, lines 17-41, leave out the clause, insert the following clause: “4. Section 7 of the Principal Act is amended— Extension of

(a) by omitting from sub-section ( 1 .) the words ‘section twenty-four, “ ov/slons of sub-sections (3.) and (4.) of section thirty-seven and sections’ Repatriation and inserting in their stead the words ‘sections twenty-four,’; and (b) by omitting sub-section (2.) and inserting in its stead the

following sub-sections:— ‘(2.) Subject to this Act, the provisions of Division 5 of Part III. of the Repatriation Act extend to and in relation to— (a) a member of the Forces within the meaning of this Act;

(b) the wife of such a member; and (c) a child, as defined by sub-section (1.) of section eighty- three of the Repatriation Act, of such a member. ‘(3.) In the application, by virtue of the last two preceding sub-sections, of the provisions of the Repatriation Act specified in those sub-sections in relation to a member—

(a) a reference to a member of the Forces or to a member shall be read as a reference to a member of the Forces within the meaning of this Act; (b) a reference to dependants shall be read, in relation to, or

to matters arising out of, an incapacity or the death of the member, as a reference to the persons who are dependants of the member for the purposes of the application of sub-section (1.) of section six of this Act in relation to that incapacity or death; (c) a reference to war service shall be read as a reference

to special service; (d) a reference to service in a theatre of war shall be read as a reference to service on special service; (e) the reference in sub-section (3.) of section thirty-seven .

of the Repatriation Act to Division 1 of Part III. of that Act shall be read as a reference to section six of this Act; and ( / ) a pension under section six of this Act shall be deemed

to be a pension under Division 1 of Part III. of the Repatriation Act.’.” . Bill, as amended, agreed to. Bill to be reported with an amendment.

The Deputy-President (Senator Drake-Brockman) resumed the Chair; and theTemporary Chairman of Committees (Senator Laught) reported accordingly. On the motion of Senator McKellar the Report from the Committee was adopted, and the Bill read a third time. 14 P articulars of P roposed E xpenditure 1968-1969—P apers: The Senate, according to

Order, resolved itself into Committee for the further consideration of proposed expenditure for the year 1968-69.

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In the Committee

The Committee took note of the proposed expenditure in relation to the following Divisions: 210 Department of Customs and Excise, $21,883,000; and . 820 „ „ „ „ „ , $37,000;

580-586 Department of Works, $56,289,000; 925 „ „ „ , $71,045,800;

764 Civil Defence—Repairs and Maintenance, $15,000; and 765 Civil Defence—Buildings, $20,000 (after debate). Question proposed—That the Committee take note of the proposed expenditure in relation to the following Divisions:

101-113 Parliament, $4,719,0 0 0 - Debate ensued. Ordered—That the Temporary Chairman of Committees (Senator Bull) report progress and ask leave to sit again. .

The Deputy-President (Senator Drake-Brockman) resumed the Chair; and Senator Bull reported that the Committee had considered the proposed expenditure for the year 1968-69 and had made progress, and asked leave to sit again. Ordered—That the Committee have leave to sit again at a later hour of the day.

15 A ustralian P roduced Crude O il—M inisterial Statement: The Minister for Supply (Senator Anderson), by leave, made a statement concerning the Commonwealth Government’s policy for pricing and refining of Australian produced crude oil. Senator O’Byrne moved, by leave—That the Senate take note of the Statement.

Ordered—That the debate be adjourned till the next day of sitting, and that Senator O’Byme have leave to continue his speech on the resumption of the debate.

16 P articulars of P roposed Expenditure 1968-69—P apers: The Senate, according to Order, resolved itself into Committee for the further consideration of proposed expenditure for the year 1968-69.

In the Committee

The Committee took note of the proposed expenditure in relation to the following Divisions: 101-113 Parliament, $4,719,000 (after further debate). Question proposed—That the Committee take note of the proposed expenditure in relation to the following Divisions:

430-459 Prime Minister’s Department, $24,837,000; and 880-883 „ „ „ , $10,277,7 0 0 -

Debate ensued. Ordered—That the Temporary Chairman of Committees (Senator Laught) report progress and ask leave to sit again.

The President resumed the Chair; and Senator Laught reported that the Committee had considered the particulars of proposed expenditure for the year 1968-69 and had made progress, and asked leave to sit again. Ordered—That the Committee have leave to sit again on the next day of sitting.

17 D evelopment P roposals for C apital H ill and C amp H ill— M inisterial Statement: The Minister for Customs and Excise (Senator Scott), by leave, made a statement concerning past and future proposals of the National Capital Development Com­ mission for the Capital Hill and Camp Hill areas of Canberra.

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18 Adjournment: The Senate adjourned at twenty-nine minutes past ten p.m. till Tuesday next at three p.m.

19 Attendance: Present, all the Members except Senators Branson (on leave), Cohen, Dittmer (on leave), McManus (on leave), Prowse, Toohey (on leave), Webster and Wood.

J. R. Odgers, Clerk of the Senate

23287/68 By Authority: A. J. Arthur, Commonwealth Government Printer, Canberra