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SJ No 71 - 13 November 1901



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COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA.

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No. 71.

JOURNALS OF THE SENATE.

WEDNESDAY, 13th NOVEMBER, 1901.

1. M eeting of S enate.—The Senate met pursuant to adjournment.

2. PRAYERS.

3. P etitions :— Senator Charleston presented a Petition (No. 33) from 10,415 Citizens and Electors of the State of South Australia praying the Senate to reject the Matrimonial Causes Bill.

Petition received and read.

Senator Clemons presented a Petition (No. 34) from 180 Chinese and other Merchants and Residents in the State of Victoria praying the Senate not to make the Immigration Restriction Bill applicable » to Chinese entering the State of Victoria under the provisions of the State Law in force in Victoria.

Petition received and read.

4. L eave of A bsence.— Senator Staniforth Smith, pursuant to notice, moved, That one month’s leave of absence from Parliament be granted to Senator Ewing, on account of urgent private business. Question—put and passed.

5. Copyright B ill.—Senator Keating, pursuant to notice, moved for leave to introduce a Bill relating to copyright. Question—put and passed.

G. F ederal Capital, D uration of S ession, and T ropical R egions of A ustralia.—Senator Clemons, by leave of the Senate, and at the request of Senator Walker, who was unavoidably absent, pursuant to notice, asked the Vice-President of the Executive Council— 1. When is it intended that Members of this Parliament shall visit and inspect the sug­

gested sites for the Federal Capital. 2. Is it the intention of the Government that the site of the Capital shall be finally deter­ mined in the present session of Parliament. 3. W hat sites for the Capital have so far been placed under offer to the Go\~ernment. 4. In view of the number of Government Bills still to be introduced, or to be passed in

this session, when is it expected by the Government that this session will terminate. 5. Is it the intention of the Government to afford facilities for Members of Parliament, at an early date, to visit and make themselves acquainted with the tropical regions of Australia, say, from 26° parallel of south latitude northwards, so as to be in a better

position than at present to legislate on such matters as kanaka labour and the acquisition of the Northern Territory.

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Tlie Vice-President of the Executive Council replied— 1. λ\ hen the state of public business will permit. 2. This can only be answered after the sites are visited. 3. No sites have been placed under offer to the ^Government, but the following is a list of the

sites suggested, and in respect of which information has been obtained :—

Albury Millthorpe

Armidale Molong

Barber’s Creek Moss Vale

Bathurst Mount Clarence

Bellingen Murrumburrah

Bemboka Nowra

Bombala-Eden Orange (Canoblas)

Bowna Port Stephens

Braidwood Queanbeyan

Buckley’s Crossing Rylstone

Calvert Sassafras

Carcoar-Garland Southern Monaro (Eden-Bombala)

Cootamundra Tenterfield

Corowa Towrang

Delegate Tumbarumba

Don Dorrigo Tumut (Gadara)

Forest Beefs Wagga Wagga

Glen limes Upper Murray

Goulburn Wellington

Hay Wentworth

Howlong Yass

Inverell Young.

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4. Impossible to say. 5. In view of the state of public business it is impossible to answer this question at present.

7. J unior L etter S orters : P romotion.—Senator McGregor pursuant to notice, asked the Postmaster-General— 1. Were any of the eight junior letter sorters who were promoted over the heads of the senior letter sorters in the Victorian Mail Branch of the Department members of the

Letter Sorters’ Association. 2. Have any of the members of the Letter Sorters’ Association received promotion. 3. Is the Letter Sorters’ Association known to or recognised by the Department. The Postmaster-General replied—

1. I t cannot be stated whether any of the eight junior letter sorters who were promoted over the heads of the senior letter sorters in the Victorian Mail Branch of the Department were members of the Letter Sorters’ Association, as the names of the members of that Association are not known to the Department. 2. I t cannot be stated whether any of the members of the Letter Sorters’ Association have

received promotion for the reason given in the reply to the previous question. 3. The Letter Sorters’ Association has not been formally made known to or recognised by the Department.

8. E xcise T axation.—Senator Pulsford, pursuant to notice, asked the Vice-President of the Executive Council do the Government care to express any opinion as to whether excise taxation on any commodity arranged so as to discriminate in any way between producers or between manufacturers would be in accordance with the Constitution.

The Vice-President of the Executive Council replied— The ^Government., following the usual Parliamentary rule, do not desire to express an opinion upon any merely legal question.

9. Tuesday S ittings.—Senator Staniforth Smith, pursuant to notice, asked the Vice-President of the Executive Council if, in view of the number of important Bills before the Senate, and the desirability of passing Electoral or Franchise Bills this Session, will the Government add Tuesday to the sitting days of the Senate.

The Vice-President of the Executive Council replied— If the Government have, as it hopes to have, the assistance of honorable members in confining debate within reasonable limits, there will be no necessity to sit on Tuesday during the present year. If, however, it should become essential to satisfactory progress to sit on Tuesdays the

Senate will be asked to sanction such sittings.

1 0 / I ntoxicants and N arcotics : R evenue.—Senator Pulsford, pursuant to notice, asked the Vice­ President of the Executive Council what revenue was obtained from duties on intoxicants and narcotics during each of the two years 1899 and 1900 in each of the six States— 1st, by the Customs ; 2nd, by the excise; and 3rd, by both together. The Vice-President of the Executive Council replied— The'information asked for by the honorable Senator will be laid upon the Table in the shape of a

return, and 1 hope to have it ready to-morrow or the following day.

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11. I mmigration R estriction B ill.—The Vice-President of the Executive Council, according to Order, moved, That the Immigration Restriction Bill be now read a second time. Debate ensued. Senator Pulsford moved an amendment, viz., to leave out all the words after “ That,” with a view to

add— “ while the Senate is of opinion that it is desirable that immigration to Australia should be restricted to members of the white races, the provisions of the Immigration Restriction Bill do not commend themselves to the Senate as the best method for securing this object, while they are calculated to cause needless offence and embarrassment to those who are either our fellow subjects or the subjects of friendly nations, and to produce complications with the Imperial Government, who, by treaties or other arrangements, are best able to secure the object desired without disturb­

ing friendly relations with other countries.”

2. Suspension of Sitting.—A t twenty minutes past six p.m. the sitting of the Senate was suspended until a quarter to eight p.m.

13. R esumption of Sitting.—A t a quarter to eight p.m. the sitting of the Senate was resumed.

4. I mmigration R estriction B ill.—Debate on the question, interrupted by the suspension of the sitting, resumed. On the motion of Senator Sir J. W. Downer, the debate was adjourned till to-morrow.

15. M essage from the H ouse of R epresentatives.—The following Message from the House of Repre­ sentatives was received and read : — Mr. P resident, Message No. 34.

The House of Representatives returns to the Senate the Bill intituled “A Bill jo r an Act to provide Jor the Acquisition oj Property jo r Public Purposes, fa r dealing rvith Property so acquired, and Jor other purposes connected therewith,” and acquaints the Senate that it has agreed to the same with the amendments indicated by the annexed Schedule, with which it desires the concurrence of the Senate.

F. W. HOLDER,

House of Representatives, Speaker.

Melbourne, 13th November, 1901.

Ordered—That the Message and amendments be printed and taken into consideration in Committee of the Whole on Wednesday next.

16. A djournment.—The Senate adjourned at ten p.m. till to-morrow, at half-past two p.m.

17. A ttendance.—Present, all the Members except Senators Lieut.-CoL Cameron, Ewing (on leave), Matheson, Lieut.-Col. Neild, Sir J. H. Symon, Walker, and Sir W. A. Zeal.

E. G. BLACKMORE, Clerk oj' the Parliaments,

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