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SJ No 59 - 27 September 1901



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COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA.

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No. 59.

JOURNALS OF THE SENATE.

FRIDAY, 27th SEPTEMBER, 1901.

1. M eeting of Senate.— The Senate met pursuant to adjournment.

2. PRAYERS.

3. M ount M organ P ost Offic e.—Senator Stewart, pursuant to notice, asked the Honorable the Postmaster-General— 1. Whether he has received any complaints as to insufficient post-office accommodation at Mount Morgan, Queensland. 2. If so, is it the intention of the Department to provide such accommodation, and when.

The Postmaster-General replied— No complaint has been received as to insufficient accommodation at the post-office at Mount Morgan, Queensland. Inquiry is being made respecting the matter.

4. M embers of P arliament and Civil Servants.— Senator Dobson, pursuant to notice, asked the Honorable the Postmaster-General whether, in future, he proposes to continue or discontinue allowing Members of Parliament to confer with him as to the position or complaints of officers of the Commonwealth service, and what difference (if any) it will make in his practice in this respect in the case of those officers whose contract of service binds them to obey regulations forbidding them to communicate with the Minister or the Public Service Board except through the Permanent

Head or Chief Officer of their Department.

The Postmaster-General replied— I shall take no action which will in any way curtail the right of Members of Parliament to bring under my notice any matters of complaint whatever against the administration of the Post and Telegraph Department.

5. Civil Servants : T ransfer of, and P ensions, etc.—Senator Smith, pursuant to notice, moved, That a return be laid upon the Table of this House showing— 1. The number of Commonwealth civil servants taken over from the services of the several States, giving the number from each State separately.

2. The number of these that are entitled to superannuation pension or retiring allowances. 3. The number of other civil servants employed by the Common wealth.

Question—put and passed.

6. T elegraphic R ates : M essages from T asmania, etc.—Senator Keating, pursuant to notice, moved, That there be laid upon the Table of this Senate a return showing— 1. The telegraphic rates prevailing at the time when the Commonwealth took over the Post and Telegraph Departments of the States—

in) For messages (distinguishing press from ordinary) from Tasmania to each of the other States of the Commonwealth and the proportion of such rates receivable by the Eastern Extension Telegraphic Company; (b) For messages (distinguishing press from ordinary) from Victoria to each of the other

States of the Commonwealth.

2. The reductions (if any) that have been made in the foregoing rates since the taking over of the Post and Telegraph Departments by the Commonwealth.

3. The amounts (if any) payable to the Eastern Extension Telegraph Company by the Common­ wealth or by any of the States in respect of the working by such company of the connexions between the Bass Straits cable and the telegraphic system of the Commonwealth.

4. The hours of opening and closing for Inter-State communication the principal telegraph offices of each of the State capitals, distinguishing in the cases of Saturdays and Sundays from other days. Question—put and passed.

7. P ostponement of B usiness.—Ordered, that Order of the Day No. 1 be postponed till after the consideration of Order of the Day No. 2.

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8. E xcise B ill.—The Vice-President of the Executive Council, according to Order, moved, That the Excise Bill be now read a second time. Question—put and passed. Bill read a second time. Ί he Senate, according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee for the consideration of this Bill.

In the Committee,

Clauses 1 to 64 agreed to. Clauses 65 and 66 postponed. Clauses 67 to 79 agreed to. Clause 80 read. Senator Sir F. T. Savgood moved an amendment, viz., in lines 3 and 4, to leave out—

“ and every stage of process in the making of excisable goods.” Question—That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the clause—put. Committee divided.

Ayes, 15.

Senator Barrett Best De Largie Sir J. W. Downei Drake Ferguson Glassey Higgs Keating McGregor O’Connor Pearce Playford Styles.

Teller.

Senator O’Keefe.

Clause 80 agreed to. Clause 81 agreed to. Clause 82 amended and agreed to. Clauses 83 to 102 agreed to. Clause 103 amended and agreed to. Clause 104 amended and agreed to. Clauses 105 to 117 agreed to. Clause 118 amended and agreed to. Clauses 1 19 to 135 agreed to. Clause 136 amended and agreed to. Clauses 137 to 147 agreed to. Clause 148 amended and agreed to. Clauses 149 to 151 agreed to. Clause 152 amended and agreed to. Clauses 153 to 157 agreed to. Schedules agreed to. To report progress, and ask leave to sit again. The President resumed the Chair; and Senator Best, from the Committee, reported that the Com­

mittee had considered the Bill, and had made progress, and asked leave to sit again. Ordered—That the Committee have leave to sit again on Wednesday next.

9. Service and E xecution of P rocess B ill.—The Senate, according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee for the consideration of Message No. 18 and the amendments of the House of Representatives in the Service and Execution of Process Bill.

In the Committee,

Message read and considered. Resolved— That amendment No. 1 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 2 of the House of Representatives be agreed to.

That amendment No. 3 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 4 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 5 of the House of Representatives be disagreed to.

10. Suspension of Committee.—At one p.m. the sitting of the Committee was suspended until a quarter past two p.m.

11. R esumption of Committee.—A t a quarter past two p.m. the sitting of the Committee was resumed.

12. Service and E xecution of P rocess B ill.—In the Committee, Resolved— That amendment No. 6 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 7 of the House of Representatives be agreed to.

That amendment No. 8 of the House of Representatives be agreed to.

Noes, 12.

Senator Clemons Dobson Fraser Major Gould Macfarlane Lieut.-Col. Neild Pulsfoi'd Lieut.-Col. Sir F. T. Sargood

Smith Sir J. II. Symon Walker

Teller.

Senator Milieu.

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That amendment No. 9 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 10 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 11 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 12 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 13 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 14 of the House of Representatives be disagreed to. That amendment No. 15 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 16 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 17 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 18 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 19 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 20 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 21 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 22 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 23 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 24 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 25 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 26 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 27 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 28 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 29 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 30 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 31 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 32 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 33 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 34 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 35 of the House of Representatives be disagreed to. That amendment No. 36 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 37 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 38 of the House of Representatives be disagreed to. That amendment No. 39 of the House of Representatives be disagreed to. That amendment No. 40 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 41 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 42 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 43 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 44 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 45 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 46 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 47 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 48 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. That amendment No. 49 of the House of Representatives be agreed to. Resolution to be reported. The President resumed the C hair; and Senator Best, from the Committee, reported that the

Committee had agreed to the amendments of the House of Representatives in the Service and Execution of Process Bill with the exception of amendments Nos. 5, 14, 35, 38, and 39. Whereupon the Senate adopted such Report. Ordered—That a Committee consisting of Senator Clemons, Senator Pearce, and the Vice-President of the Executive Council be appointed to prepare and bring up reasons for disagreeing to amend­ ments Nos. 5, 14, 35, 38, and 39 of the House of Representatives.

13. A djournm ent.— The Senate adjourned at thirty-six minutes past three p.m. till Wednesday, 2nd October, at half-past two p.m. 14. A ttendance. —Present, all the Members, except Senators Lieut.-Col. Cameron, Dawson, Harvey, and Matheson (on leave).

E. G. BLACKMORE, Clerk of the Parliaments.

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