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SJ No 28 - 18 July 1901



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COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA.

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JOURNALS

No. 28.

OF THE SENATE.

THURSDAY, 18th JULY, 1901.

1. Meeting of tiie Senate.—The Senate met pursuant to adjournment.

2. PRAYERS.

3. Old-A ge P ensions—Senator L ieu t.-Col. N eild’s R eport.—Senator Barrett, pursuant to notice, asked the Vice-President of the Executive Council will he endeavour to procure for the use of the Members of the Senate copies of the Official Report on Old-age Pensions, State Insurance, and Charitable Relief prepared by Senator Lieut.-Col. Neild, Honorary Commissioner of New South Wales. The Vice-President of the Executive Council replied—Inquiry will be made with a view to a

number of copies being placed in the Library for the use of Honorable Members.

4. T ranscontinental R ailway.—Senator Pearce, pursuant to notice, asked the Vice-President of the Executive Council if he will cause to be laid upon the Table of the Senate the Report of Mr. C. Y. O’Connor, Engineer-in-Chief of the Western Australian Railways, on the Transcontinental Railway, as furnished to the Minister of Defence and laid upon the Table of the House of Representatives. The Vice-President of the Executive Council replied—Honorable Members will be supplied with

copies of the Report.

5. F emale T elephone O perators.—Senator Barrett, pursuant to notice, moved, That there be laid upon the Table of the Senate all papers in connexion with the circular recently issued in the Postal Department (Telephone Branch) to nine Female telephone operators on probation, with a view of ascertaining the reasons for the issue of such circulars. Question—put and passed.

6. P aper.—The Vice-President of the Executive Council laid on the Table the following Paper, viz.:— Return to Order of the Senate of this day, July 18th, viz.:—Papers re Circular to Female Telephone Operators.

Ordered to be printed.

7. S ervice and E xecution of P rocess B ill.—On the Order of the Day being read for the consideration of the Service and Execution of Process Bill as reported a second time, ' Report adopted. Ordered—That the Bill be read a third time to-morrow.

8. P roperty A cquisition B ill.—The Senate, according to order, resolved itself into a Committee for the further consideration of the Property Acquisition Bill. In the Committee, Clause 18 further considered. • Amendment again proposed, viz.: In line 9 of the clause, to leave out “ three,” with a view to

insert “ four ” in lieu thereof. Question—That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the clause—put.

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Committee divided—

Ayes, 16.

Mr. Barrett Best Charleston Clemons

De Largie Sir J. W. Downer Mr. Drake Keating

McGregor O’Connor O’Keefe Pearce Playford Lieut.-Col. Sir F. T. Sargood

Stewart.

Teller.

Mr. Smith.

Noes, 7.

Sir R. C. Baker Lieut.-Col. Cameron Mr. Dobson Ferguson

Major Gould Mr. Walker.

Teller.

Mr. Millen.

Senator Millen moved an amendment, viz., after “ three,” in line 9 of the clause, to insert “ pounds ten shillings.” Question—That the words proposed to be inserted be inserted—put. Committee divided—

Ayes, 7.

Lieut.-Col. Cameron Mr. Ferguson Major Gould Mr. Millen

Playford Walker.

Teller.

Mr. Dobson.

Noes, 15.

Mr. Barrett Best Charleston Clemons De Largie Sir J. W. Downer Mr. Drake

McGregor O’Connor O’Keefe Pearce Lieut.-Col. Sir F. T. Sargood

Smith Stewart.

Teller.

Mr. Keating.

Clause 18 agreed to. Clauses 19-43 agreed to. Clause 44 postponed. Clauses 45— 49 agreed to.

Clause 50 read. Senator Millen moved an amendment, viz.:—In line 3 of the clause to leave out “ sell.” Question—That the word proposed to be left out stand part of the clause—put. Committee divided—

Ayes, 12.

Mr. Best Lieut.-Col. Cameron Mr. Clemons Dobson

Sir J. W. Downer Mr. Drake Ferguson O’Connor

Playford

Lieut.-Col. Sir F. T. Sargood. Mr. Walker.

Teller.

Mr. Harney.

Clause 50 agreed to. Clauses 51 to 61 agreed to. To report progress and ask leave to sit again. The President resumed the C hair; and Mr. Best, from the Committee, reported that the Com­

mittee had considered the Bill and had made progress, and asked leave to sit again. Ordered—That the Committee have leave to sit again to-morrow.

Noes, 9.

Mr. Barrett Charleston De Largie McGregor Millen Pearce Smith Stewart.

Teller.

Mr. O’Keefe.

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9. Suspension of Sitting,—A t ten minutes past six p.m. the sitting of the Senate was suspended until half-past seven p.m,

10. R esumption of S itting.—At half-past seven p.m. the sitting of the Senate was resumed.

11. P ost and T elegraph B ill.—On the Order of the Day being read for the consideration of the Post and Telegraph Bill as reported, Ordered—That the Bill be recommitted in respect of clauses 2, 5, 15, 16, 19, 27, 36, 68, 77, 78, 91, 92, 95, 103, 124, 142. The Senate, according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee for the reconsideration of the said

clauses in the Bill.

In the Committee,

Clause 2 reconsidered. The Postmaster-General moved an amendment, viz.:—To leave out the second paragraph. Question—That the paragraph proposed to be left out stand part of the clause—put and negatived. The Postmaster-General moved a further amendment, viz.:—To insert a new paragraph—

“ But the regulations in force in any State under any of the said State Acts shall as regards that State continue in force until revoked by the Governor-General, and rates and charges in force in any State under any of the said State Acts shall until l'ates and charges fixed by the Governor-General under this Act come into operation continue in force as regards that

State and be applied in the same manner as if the said State Acts were not affected by this Act.” Senator Sir F. T. Sargood moved an amendment to the proposed amendment, viz.:—To leave out in line 3 “ by the Governor-General ” with a view to insert “ Act of Parliament ” in lieu thereof. Question—That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the proposed amendment—put and

passed. Question—That the proposed amendment be inserted in the clause—put and passed. Clause 2, as amended, agreed to. Clause 5 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to. Clause 15 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to. Clause 16 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to. Clause 19 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to. Clause 27 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to.

Clause 36 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to. Clause 68 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to. Clause 77 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to. Clause 78 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to. Clause 91 reconsidered and agreed to. Clause 92 reconsidered and struck out. Clause 95 reconsidered and agreed to. Clause 103 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to.

Clause 124 reconsidered, amended, and agreed to. Clause 142 reconsidered.

The Postmaster-General moved an amendment, viz., to add a new paragraph to Clause 142, viz.:—

(3) Where such electric lines or works have been lawfully constructed prior to the erection of the telegraph line of the Postmaster-General injuriously affected thereby, the Post­ master-General shall pay to the person owning or using or entitled to use such electric lines or works the amount of any costs reasonably incurred or damages sustained by him by reason of compliance with such conditions and restrictions.

Senator Clemons moved an amendment to the proposed amendment, viz., to leave out in lines 2 and 3—“ prior to the erection of the telegraph line of the Postmaster-General injuriously affected thereby.” Question—That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the proposed amendment—put and

passed. Question—That the paragraph proposed to be added be added—put and passed. Clause 142 as amended agreed to. Bill to be reported with further amendments. The President resumed the Chair; and Mr. Best, from the Committee, reported that the Com­

mittee had reconsidered the Bill, and had agreed to the same with further amendments. Ordered—That the Bill as reported be considered to-morrow.

M essage from the H ouse of R epresentatives.—The following Message from the House of Representatives was received and read :—

Mr. P resident, Message No. 12.

The House of Representatives transmits to the Senate a Bill intituled “ An Act to make provision fo r the Collection and Payment of the Public Moneys, the Audit of the Public Accounts, and the Protection and Recovery of Public Property, and fo r other Purposes,” with which it desires he concurrence of the Senate.

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House of Representatives, Melbourne, 18th July, 1901.

F. W. HOLDER, Speaker.

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13. A udit B ill.—The Vice-President of the Executive Council moved, That the Audit Bill be now read a first time. ·

Question—put and passed. Bill read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Wednesday next.

14. Governor-General’s M essages.—The Vice-President of the Executive Council commu11ieated_the following Messages from His Excellency the Governor-General, which were received and read :— HOPETOTJN, Governor-General. Message.

A Bill intituled “An Act fo r the Interpretation of Acts of Parliament and fo r Shortening their Language," as finally passed by the Senate and the House of Representatives of the Com­ monwealth, having been presented to the Governor-General for the Royal Assent, His Excellency has, in the name of His Majesty, assented to the said Bill. Melbourne, 12th July, 1901.

HOPETOUN, Governor-General. Message.

A Bill intituled “ An Act to grant and supply out oj the Consolidated Revenue Fund the sum of One million ten thousand seven hundred and thirty- two pounds to the service o f the Year endiny the thirtieth day o f June One thousand nine hundred and two," as finally passed by the Senate and the House of Representatives of the Commonwealth, having been presented to the Governor-General for the Royal Assent, His Excellency has, in the name of His Majesty, assented

to the said Bill. Government House, Melbourne, 12th July, 1901.

15. A djournment.—The Senate adjourned at twenty-eight minutes past ten till to-morrow at half-past ten a.m.

16. A ttendance.—Present, all the Members, except Senators Dawson, Ewing (on leave), Fraser, Glassey, Higgs, Macfarlane, Matheson, Lieut.-Col. Neild, Pulsford, Styles, Sir J. H. Symon, and Sir W. A. Zeal.

E. G. BLACKMORE, Clerk o f the Parliaments.

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