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Estimates Committees - Reports from Senate Estimates Committees A, B, C, D, E and F on Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for year 1975-76


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Parliamentary Paper No. 125/1976

The Parliament of the Commonwealth of Australia

SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEES A, B, C, D, E and F

Reports to the Senate on Departmental Additional Estimates 1975-76

Brought up and ordered to be printed 25 May 1976

The A cting C om m onw ealth G overnm ent P rinter

C an b erra 1977

Printed by Authority by the Acting Commonwealth Government Printer

CONTENTS

Page

1. Resolution of the Senate-28 April 1976 3

2. Estimates Committee A— Report ............................................................................................ 7

Appendix-Written answers to questions ................................................. 11

Minutes of Proceedings 1976— 18 May 1976 43

20 May 1976 48

3. Estimates Committee B— Report ' ............................................................................................ 51

Minutes of Proceedings 1976— 18 May 1976 55

20 May 1976 58

Appendix-Written answers to questions ................................................. 61

4. Estimates Committee C— Report ............................................................................................ 73

Minutes of Proceedings 1976— 20 May 1976 77

Appendix-Written answers to questions ................................................ 83

5. Estimates Committee D— Report ............................................................................................ 87

Minutes of Proceedings 1976— 20 May 1976 91

6. Estimates Committee E— Report ............................................................................................ 97

Minutes of Proceedings 1976— 18 May 1976 101

Appendix-Written answers to questions . . . . ................................ 107

7. Estimates Committee F— Report ............................................................................................ 119

Minutes of Proceedings— 5 May 1976 123

20 May 1976 125

25 May 1976 129

Appendix-Written answers to questions ....................................................... 133

RESOLUTION OF THE SENATE

RESOLUTION PASSED ON 28 APRIL 1976

11 Particulars o f Proposed Additional Expenditure 1975-76-Papers- R E FE R E N C E to ESTIMATES COMMITTEES: The Minister for Industry and Commerce (Senator Cotton), by Command of His Excellency the Governor- General, laid upon the Table the following Papers:

Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for the Service of the year ending 30 June 1976. Particulars of Certain Proposed Additional Expenditure in respect of the year ending on 30 June 1976.

Statement of Savings Expected in Annual Appropriations made by Appro­ priation Acts (Nos 1 and 2) 1975-76.

Reference to Estimates Committees: The Minister for Environment, Housing and Community Development (Senator Greenwood), by leave, moved— (1) That the Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for the Service of the year ending 30 June 1976 and the Particulars of Certain Proposed

Additional Expenditure in respect of the year ending on 30 June 1976 be referred herewith to Estimates Committees for examination and report.

(2) That, unless otherwise ordered, the Committees deal with departmental estimates as follows: Estimates Committee A Department of Administrative Services

Parliament Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet Department of National Resources Department of Foreign Affairs

Department of Defence

Estimates Committee B D e p a rtm e n t o f E n v iro n m en t, H ousing and C om m unity Development Department of Employment and Industrial Relations

Attorney-General’s Department Department of Business and Consumer Affairs Estimates Committee C Department of Industry and Commerce

Department of Overseas Trade Department of the Treasury Department of Primary Industry

Estimates Committee D Department of Education Department of Transport Postal and Telecommunications Department

Estimates Committee E Department of Social Security Department of Health Department of Immigration and Ethnic Affairs

Department of Aboriginal Affairs Department of Repatriation

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Estimates Committee F Department of Science Department of the Northern Territory Department of Construction Department of the Capital Territory (3) That the Committees report to the Senate on or before Tuesday, 18 May

1976.

Debate ensued. Question—put and passed.

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A

REPORT TO THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A

REPORT TO THE SENATE

Estimates Committee A has the honour to report to the Senate.

1. On 28 April 1976, the Senate referred to the Committee the Additional Departmental Estimates for the year 1975-76 relating to the following Departments:

Administrative Services Parliament

Prime Minister and Cabinet

National Resources Foreign Affairs

Defence

2. The Committee has considered these Additional Estimates and has received explanations of them from the President of the Senate, Senator the Elon. C. L. Laucke (in relation to the Parliamentary Departments), from the Minister for Administrative Services, Senator Withers, and from officers of the Departments concerned. Copies of

the Minutes of Proceedings and Hansard report of the evidence taken by the Committee are tabled for the information of the Senate in connection with the Appro­ priation Bill (No. 3) 1975-76 and the Appropriation Bill (No. 4) 1975-76. Additional written replies received since the Committee’s hearings are included as an Appendix

to this Report.

3. The Committee is anxious that Estimates Committees should carry out their important supervisory role as efficiently and effectively as possible. For that reason the Committee makes the following points:

(1) It is essential that departmental explanatory notes should be in a form that contains sufficient detailed information. This applies particularly to break­ downs of amounts which might be described as ‘group’ amounts, in relation to which it might clearly be anticipated that such details would be sought.

The Committee accepts that it may not always be easy for departments to anticipate what items may require further details, but considers that, in most cases, a greater effort should be made to provide such breakdowns. (2) Although the question of the early provision of the explanatory notes has

been referred to previously by this Committee, and by other Committees, it is suggested that, for the consideration of the main departmental estimates dur­ ing the Budget sittings, and in future years, the operation of the Estimates

Committee system would be greatly enhanced if the explanatory notes were made available to members at the time of the presentation of the Appropri­ ation Bills to the Parliament. This would give adequate time for consideration well in advance of the sittings of the Committees. It would also make possible

a practice which this Committee proposes to implement, if practicable, and which it recommends for the consideration of the other Committees—the pre­ liminary examination of the explanatory notes, in private session, prior to the

public hearings of the Committee. Such a prior consideration could quite possibly lead to a clarification of proposed areas of particular examination and concern and, perhaps, a decrease in the numbers of departmental officers required to attend at the subsequent hearings. Such criticisms as are made of

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the system include references to lines of questioning and numbers of depart­ mental officers in attendance, and it appears to the Committee that its pro­ posal for a ‘pre-examination consideration’ might assist the smooth overall working of the Estimates Committees’ operations.

4. The Committee expresses its appreciation of the assistance given by the Presi­ dent of the Senate, the Minister for Administrative Services and the officers who attended with them before the Committee. The particular matters investigated by Committee members, and the detailed answers given in response are contained in the Hansard report of the sitting of the Committee on 18 May, which are recommended

to Honourable Senators for their consideration prior to the Senate debating the Appropriation Bills.

J. P. SIM Chairman

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Appendix

AUSTRALIA DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE AGENCY

P.O. Box 887, Canberra City 2601

20 May 1976

Dear Mr Cumming Thom,

During the examination by Senate Estimates Committee ‘A ’ of the Additional Estimates 1975-76 of the Department of Foreign Affairs (Document B), the representatives of the Australian Development Assistance Agency undertook to pro­ vide additional information in relation to Division 847/07—Emergency relief for Timor—$250 000, in response to a question by Senator McLaren.

The answer to Senator McLaren’s question is now provided in Attachment A hereto, and it would be appreciated if you would bring this information to the atten­ tion of the Committee.

Yours sincerely, P. KELLOWAY

Acting First Assistant Secretary

Mr A. Cumming Thom Secretary Senate Estimates Committee A The Senate

Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

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TIM OR-INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE OF THE RED CROSS (ICRC) APPEALS This reply to the question by Senator McLaren sets out the current position regarding utilisation of the two Australian contributions to the ICRC appeals for funds for their operations in Timor.

Aid provided for Timor relief, through the ICRC comprised two grants: • one of $100 000 in response to an appeal launched by the ICRC on 5 Sep­ tember 1975 for its operations in East Timor and • a $150 000 grant provided in response to a second ICRC appeal on 15 October

1975.

The Australian Government requested that a substantial proportion of both con­ tributions be used for refugees on the Indonesian side of the border. In the event the ICRC earmarked $125 000, or one half of the total Australian contribution, for assist­ ance to refugees in Indonesian Timor, and a similar amount for the ICRC’s oper­ ations in East Timor.

ATTACHMENT A

Australian Development Assistance Agency Canberra, A.CT.

20 May 1976

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DEPARTM ENT OF ADM INISTRATIVE SERVICES

Post Office Box 1920 Canberra City, A.C.T. 2601

25 May 1976

The Secretary Senate Estimates Committee A Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

Attention: Mr A. Gumming Thom

Committee Hearing on 18 May 1976 Department o f Administrative Services

During the examination of the Department’s additional estimates for 1975-76, the Minister for Administrative Services undertook to provide additional information in response to eight questions asked by Committee members. The additional information has been compiled in respect of four of these questions

and is contained in Attachments A to D. The information in respect of the remaining four questions is being prepared as a matter of urgency and will be forwarded to the Committee as soon as possible.

P. J. LAWLER Secretary

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ATTACHMENT A

Information requested by Senator Douglas McClelland— Hansard report page 29

Division 574—State and Electorate Offices o f Ministers and Members o f the Aus­ tralian Parliament—S ta ff and Services

Room No. 11 on the 7th floor comprising approximately 1 lm 2 in the Common­ wealth Bank Building, Martin Place, Sydney, is vacant; it became vacant on 23 March 1976. One suite, rooms No. 10-15 on the 8th floor, comprising 112m2 in the same build­ ing was vacant from 14 October 1974 to 12 January 1976. It was vacated when Sena­ tor D. McClelland moved to the Commonwealth Centre, Chifley Square, on 14 October 1974 with other Members and Senators. The suite remained vacant until allocated to Senator Cotton on 12 January 1976.

SENATE ESTIM A TES COM M ITTEE A

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ATTACHMENT B

Information requested by Senator Douglas McClelland— Hansard report page 31

Division 5 75—Conveyance o f Members o f Parliament and Others

There are 96 retired members of the Parliament who are life gold pass holders. The pass entitles the holder to unrestricted main line rail and air transport throughout Australia. Spouses and widows/widowers of life gold pass holders are entitled to similar travel facilities. During the period 1 July 1975 to 18 May 1976 the cost of

travel undertaken by pass holders etc., was $90 277.

SENATE ESTIM ATES COM M ITTEE A

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ATTACHM ENT C

SENATE ESTIM A TES CO M M ITTEE A

Information requested by Senator Douglas McClelland— Hansard report page 35

Division 610, subdivision 4-Grants-in-Aid

The following countries are represented in the Asian Association of Development, Research and Training Institutes:

Australia Bangladesh India Indonesia

Iran

Japan South Korea Malaysia Nepal Pakistan

Philippines Sri Lanka Singapore Taiwan Thailand

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ATTACHMENT D

Information requested by Senator Douglas McClelland— Hansard report page 37

SENATE ESTIM ATES COM M ITTEE A

Division 250—Rent

The original appropriation of $20 791 000 included a provision of $1 204 000 for the rent of new dwellings that were expected to be constructed by State hous­ ing commissions during 1975-76 for servicemen. The average rental of $50 was a weighted figure obtained from the rental of new dwellings constructed for ser­

vicemen and occupied by them during the period December 1974 to March 1975. The $82.45 per week figure was the average rental for new dwellings constructed for servicemen and occupied by them in December 1975. The average rentals for new dwellings constructed for servicemen by housing

commissions in the States were:

Dec. 1974 Jan. 1975 Feb. 1975 March 1975 Dec. 1975

$ $ $ $ $

N.S.W. 44.28 53.81 61.20 58.23 85.92

Vic. 36.51 41.75 24.56 41.32

Qld 40.00 .. 49.53 53.40 71.26

S.A.

Weighted average = $50

23.00

$82.45

The average figure of $82.45 is not subject to indexation. It is based on rentals derived from the actual cost of the land and dwellings concerned.

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DEPA RTM EN T OF FO R EIG N AFFAIRS

Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

25 May 1976

The Secretary Senate Committee A Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T.

Attention: Mr A. Gumming Thom

In the course of the examination by the Senate Committee A on 18 May of our ad­ ditional estimates under Division 305/4/01, Senator Knight requested additional information regarding the Australian contribution to the International Labour Office and the 40 per cent increase in contribution.

The ILO prepares its budget on a biennial basis. The currency used for the ma­ jority of its accounts, including salaries, is the Swiss franc (SF). Contributions of members are assessed in United States dollars. The exchange rate used for conversion of the US$ contribution to SF for the

1974-75 biennium budget was a constant SF3.10 = US$. During the period the Swiss franc hardened against the US dollar (and other currencies). The draft program and budget (prepared in January 1975) provided for the estimated cost of activities in 1976-77 on the basis of the constant exchange rate of 3.10 SF = US$. It also con­ tained a special appropriation line for an additional US$10 100 000 estimated for

1976 on the basis of an average exchange rate of SF2.51 to the US$, this rate being closer to the actual position at the time of the Governing Body’s consideration of the 1976-77 Budget Estimates. The special appropriation was intended to make partial provision for the effects of exchange rate adjustments.

In addition, the 1976-77 Budget provides for the partial reimbursement of US$8 000 000 to the Working Capital Fund ( WCF) for amounts withdrawn from the WCF during 1974-75. Since these two provisions of the Budget are applicable to 1976 only, the Budget, as recommended by the Governing Body, is exceptionally divided unequally between

1976 and 1977. The table (attached) shows the effect exchange fluctuations have had on the ILO Budget for 1976-77 after being recosted at the exchange rate of US$ = 2.51 Swiss francs plus the provision in 1976 for the one time payment of US$18 100 000 as indi­ cated above. In addition, the US$ hardened against the Australian dollar. In March

1975 the rate was $A = US$1.3711. At the end of April 1976 it fell to $A = US$1.2372. Although this did not affect the ILO Budget it has meant that Australia has had to provide additional funds to meet its US$ contribution. In addition, Senator McClelland requested details of the number of locally engaged staff overseas as at 31 May 1976 and how far this represented a reduction in earlier figures. This information will be forwarded as soon as possible in June when the figures for 31 May become available.

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D. C. GOSS Assistant Secretary

Administrative Services Branch

(All figures in U.S. dollars)

1974-75 Biennium 1976-77 Biennium 1976-77 Biennium

USS = 3.10 SF Constant US$ = 3.10 SF Constant US$ = 2.51 SFRecoster

93 569 000 Total Budget divided as below:

1974 45 134 500 (Australian contribution @ 1.83 percent = US$825 962)

1975 48 434 500 (Australian contribution @ 1.77 percent = US$798 880)

107 824 000 Percentage increase over 1974-75 = 15.23 percent (This would approximate the

General European inflation rate for the period 1974-75). Percentage increase of SF exchange rate against the USS, i.e. 3.10 to 2.51, = 19.30 percent.

These two factors above account for a 34.53 per cent increase over the 1974-75 budget figure

143 982 000 Total Budget (Percentage increase does not include the amount of 10 100 000 global provision to cover shortfalls arising in 1976 out of

changes in exchange rates)

Divided as below:

1976 81 041 000 (includes once only payment of $8 000 000 reimbursement to the Working Capital Fund and

$10 100 000 exchange variation provision) Australian contribution @ 1.57 percent = US$1 272 344

1977 62 941 000 (Australian contribution @ 1.43 percent = US$900 056)

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Russell Offices

DEPARTM ENT O F DEFENCE

Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

Secretary Senate Estimates Committee A Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

25 May 1976

ADDITIONAL ESTIMATES 1975-76

In response to the question asked by Senator McLaren at the hearing on 18 May 1976 relating to the split of expenditure between civilian medical and dental practitioners, the following estimated expenditures for 1975-76 are:

Medical Practitioners Dental Practitioners

$

3 830 000 640 000

P. D. NAUGHTON Assistant Secretary Budgets & Estimates (G eneral& Co-ordination)

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THE PIPELINE AUTHORITY

Tasman House Hobart Place

Canberra City, A.C.T.

25 May 1976

The Chairman Senate Estimates Committee A Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T.

Dear Sir,

ADDITIONAL ESTIMATE BIDS 1975-76

As requested at the committee hearing of Tuesday evening 18 May 1976, the follow­ ing further information is provided:

Answer to question by Senator Durack It is difficult to separate the cost of industrial disputes on the Moomba-Wilton main pipeline project from the cost of other delays, such as those caused by rain and floods as in some cases the delays have been concurrent. Any figure produced could

be debated, but it is estimated that approximately $ 15m could be attributed to indus­ trial disputes, of which approximately $8m is interest.

Answer to question by Senator McLaren There have been many causes of the industrial disputes, but the main ones relate to claims for additional wages and allowances. There were also some claims relating to site conditions.

Undoubtedly there have been underlying aggravations and frustrations brought about by remoteness, isolation, dust, mud, heat, rain, floods, flies and uncomfortable travelling from the camps to the working site.

Answer to question by Senator Douglas McClelland At the peak of construction there were approximately 1800 people directly engaged by the contractors and others on the project. There are now approximately 800 so engaged.

F. W. NOBLE Finance Manager

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Post Office Box 1920 Canberra City, A.C.T. 2601

25 May 1976

DEPA RTM EN T OF ADM INISTRATIVE SERVICES

The Secretary Senate Estimates Committee A Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

Attention: Mr A. Gumming Thom

Committee Hearing on 18 May 1976 Department o f Administrative Services

In my memorandum of today’s date I mentioned that information in respect of four additional questions would be forwarded to the Committee as soon as possible. Attachments E, F, and G are forwarded herewith; attachment H will follow shortly.

P. J. LAWLER Secretary

ATTACHMENT E

SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A

Information requested by Senator McLaren— Hansard report page 37

Division 685/4 Rent The attached schedules show the location and rental costs of office accommo­ dation occupied by all members of the Parliament at 25 May 1976.

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Federal Members Accommodation—A.C.T. Leased—as at 25 May 1976

Rent pa $

Member/ Senator Location Party Electorate Aream 2 m2 (per sqft)

K. Fry . . . . 2nd Floor, A.S.L. House,

Canberra City

J. Haslem . . . 2nd Floor, M.L.C. Tower,

Woden

Senator Knight . “City Mutual Life, Hobart Place, Canberra City Senator Ryan . . ’Suite 206, A.S.L. House, Canberra City

ALP Fraser 46.82 72.12(6.70)

LP Canberra 58.53 68.36(6.35)

LP Senate 54.25 64.58(6.00)

ALP Senate *47.01 79.96(7.43)

‘ not yet determined—depending on choice of location area will be approximately 47.50m2.

Term o f Lease Remarks

31.10.76 + 3 year option

15.10.77 + 3 year option

31.1.77 No option

5.10.76 + 3 year option

Federal Members Accommodation Northern Territory Leased—as at 25 M ay 1976

Member/Senator Location

Rent per m2

Party Electorate Aream2 (per sqft) Term o f lease

S. Calder . . . (i) Hooker Bldg, 47 Mitchell St, NCP Northern 46.45

Darwin Territory

(a) (ii) Alice Springs Town House Bldg NCP Northern 46.50 Territory

Senator B. Kilgariff Hooker Building, 47 Mitchell St NCP Senate 46.45

$83.93(7.80)

$43.06(4.00)

$83.93(7.80)

Senator E. Robertson Hooker Building, 47 Mitchell St ALP Senate 46.45 $83.93(7.80)

1.5.76-30.4.79 Monthly tenancy 3 yrs x 3 yr option Expected commencement date late February 28.5.76

Expected commencement date late February Expected commencement date late February

(a ) Presently using own residence as office, alternative site being investigated.

Federal Members Accommodation—New South W ales—Government Owned—as at 25 May 1976

Name Location Electorate Party Aream 2 Remarks

Senator Baume ........................ Aust. Pari. Offices (A.P.O.) Aust. Govt. Centre

(Sydney)

Senate LP

R. J. B i r n e y .................................. A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Phillip LP

Senator Carrick ........................ A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Senate LP

D. M. Connolly ........................ A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Bradfield LP

J. D. M. D o b i e ............................. A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Cook LP

R. J. E l l i c o t t .................................. A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Wentworth LP

J. W. Howard ............................. A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Benelong LP

R. J. D. Hunt ............................. A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Gwydir NCP

A. W. James ............................. A.G.O., 526 Hunter Street, Newcastle Hunter ALP

Senator Lajovic ........................ Aust. Pari. Offices, Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Senate LP

M.J. R. MacKellar ................... A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Warringah LP

Senator D. McClelland . . . . A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Senate ALP

Senator J. R. McClelland . . . A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Senate ALP

J. L. McMahon ........................ A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Sydney ALP

Senator M u lv ih ill........................ A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Senate ALP

Senator Scott ............................. A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Senate NCP

A. P. W h i t l a m ............................. A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Grayndler ALP

Senator K. W. Sibraa . . . .

Visitor .......................................

A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney A.P.O. Aust. Govt. Centre Sydney Senate ALP

60.76

49.02 183.34 Includes Ministerial Suite 58.99 49.02 Moving to leased accommo­

dation by 1.7.76. See list on leased premises. 43.57 170.64 Includes Ministerial Suite 43.57 52.95 53.55 43.57 47.19 50.83 47.19 43.57 43.57 49.02 49.02 67.24

Name

*J. A. Abel . . .

J. D. Anthony . .

J. L. Armitage . .

tM .E. Baume . .

L. F. Bowen . . .

J. M. Bradfield . .

A. G.Cadman . .

B. Cohen . . .

Senator R. C. Cotton

R. F. Connor .

$J. D. M. Dobie

Dr H. R. Edwards

W. C . Fife . .

J. Fitzpatrick .

Senator Gietzelt

P. Gillard . . .

B. W. Graham .

L. R. Johnson .

§C. K. Jones . .

P. J. Keating . .

- a s at 25 May 1976

Rental ($) pa

A re a m2 m2 (per sqft)

96.51 (8.97)

19.54 (1.82) 48.46 (4.50)

22.22 (2.06)

48.46 (4.50)

48.38 (4.49) 61.50 (5.71)

47.69 (4.43)

64.05 (5.95)

32.29 (3.00)

75.00 (6.97)

51.56 53.82 (5.00)

Car space $120 pa car space 13.46 (1.25) 20.20 ( 1.88)

63.24 (5.88)

16.53 (1.54) 61.89 (5.75)

59.02 (5.48)

38.21 (3.55)

48.77 50.70 (4.71)

Car space $ 192 pa

Car space

Term

2 years from 18.6.74 plus 2 year option Monthly Monthly

Monthly

Monthly

3 years from 4.8.73 Monthly

3 years from 1.1.74 plus 2 year option 10 years from 1.10.68

2 years from 1.5.75 plus 2 year option

2 0 .4 .7 6 -4 .1 2 .7 8 and thence monthly 3 years from 1.12.75 plus 3 year option

Monthly 3 years from 20.8.73 and 3 year option 3 years from 12.3.76

Monthly 3 years from 1.3.75 plus 3 year option 2 years from 1.2.75 plus

2- year option

3 years from 1.6.73 plus 3- year option

Monthly

Dr R. £. Klugman . . . . 93 O ’Neill St, Guildford Prospect ALP

P. E. Lucock, C.B.E. . . . Suite 2, 1st Floor, 41 Bent St, Wingham Lyne NCP

S. A. Lusher . . . . . . Ground Floor, Cnr Bourke & Parker Sts,

Cootamundra

Hume NCP

W. McMahon . . . . . 19th Floor, W estfield Towers, 100

William St, Potts Point (area includes con­ ference room facilities)

Lowe LP

V. J. Martin . . . . . . Revesby Cham bers, 44 Marco Ave,

Revesby

Banks ALP

P. F. Morris . . . . . . Room 1, 1st Floor, 49 Ridley St, Charles­

town

Shortland ALP

A. J. Mackenzie . . . . Wanganui, 18 Sale St, Orange Calare NCP

M. J. N e i l ................... . . 356 Forest Rd, Bexley St George LP

F. L. O ’Keefe . . . . . Suite 2, 1st Floor, 493 High St, Maitland Paterson NCP

I. L. Robinson . . . . . 11 Duke St, Grafton Cowper NCP

P. M. Ruddock . . . . . Suite 1, Marsden Cottage, 108 Marsden

St, Parramatta

Parramatta LP

Μ. E. Sainsbury . . . . Room 1, City Arcade, 69-71 Monaro St,

Queanbeyan

Eden-Monaro LP

1. McC. Sinclair . . . . . 5th Floor, Westfield Towers, 100 William St, Potts Point New England NCP F. E. Stewart . . . . Shop 2, The Boulevarde, Lakemba Lang ALP

Lt Col J. W. Sullivan . . . Brookletgh, Victoria Square, Narrandera Riverina NCP

T. Uren ........................ . 1st Floor, Granville Towers, corner Bridge

and Bold Streets, Granville

Reid ALP

W. C. Wentworth . . . . 1 Redman Road, Dee Why Mackellar LP

E. G. Whitlam . . . . . 100 Moore Street, Liverpool Werriwa ALP

* Relocation proposed at 2/4 Holden Street, Ashfield. Submission awaiting approval, t Relocation approved. Anticipate occupy new premises by 1.7.76. $ Anticipated premises ready for occupation 14.6.76.

§ Negotiations presently in hand to reduce the area leased for Hon. C. K. Jones.

49.24 44.22 50.17

41.43 12.21 25.91

(3.85) (1.13) (2.41)

164.99 67.81 (6.30)

34.19 21.35 (1.98)

43.39 37.68 (3.50)

52.77 57.15 (5.31)

32.98 51.10

50.03 25.51 (4.65) (2.37)

44.59 50.17

22.39 72.55 (2.08) (6.74)

44.59 37.83 (3.51)

357.21 67.81 (6.30)

57.60 63.37 (5.89)

52.03 19.99 (1.86)

43.67 56.13 (5.21)

51.28 32.33

37.1 1 (3.45) 78.81 (7.32)

Monthly 2 years from 1.2.75 2 years from 1.8.74

thence monthly 3 years from 29.10.73 plus 3-year option

Weekly

Monthly

1 y e a r from 1.3.76

thence monthly Monthly 2 years from 21.10.74 thence monthly

Monthly 2 years from 1.8.75

3 years from 16.8.73

3 years from 29.10.73 plus 3-year option 3 years from 12.5.75 plus 3-year option 2 years from 2.9.74

thence monthly 2 years from 14.12.74 thence monthly Monthly 3 years from 1.4.75 plus 3 year option

Remarks

Senator Brown . . Australian Parliamentary Offices Melbourne ALP Senate 55.74

N. L. Brown . . . Australian Parliamentary Offices Melbourne LP Diamond Valley

D. L. Chipp . . . Australian Parliamentary Offices Melbourne LP Hotham 66.42

Senator Cormack . Australian Parliamentary Offices Melbourne LP Senate 70.98

F. Crean . . . . Australian Parliamentary Offices Melbourne ALP Melbourne Ports 28.52

J. M. Fraser . . . Treasury Place LP Wannon 196.95

P. R. Lynch . . . Treasury Place LP Flinders 232.26

Senator Greenwood Treasury Place LP Senate 195.10

Senator Guilfoyle . Treasury Place LP Senate 185.81

R. McN. Molten . Australian Government Offices Wangaratta NCP Indi 49.70

Senator Melzer . . Australian Parliamentary Offices Melbourne ALP Senate 52.58

Senator Missen . . Australian Parliamentary Offices Melbourne LP Senate 26.29

A.S.Peacock . . Treasury Place LP Kooyong 106.65

G. G. D. Scholes . Australian Government Offices Geelong ALP Corio 48.31

J. R. Short . . . Australian Government Offices Ballarat LP Ballaarat 46.45

B. M. Snedden . . Australian Parliamentary Offices Melbourne LP Bruce 113.34

A. A. Street . . . Australian Parliamentary Offices Melbourne LP Corangamite 35.77

Senator Webster . Australian Parliamentary Offices Melbourne NCP Senate 110.28

Includes ministerial suite Includes ministerial suite Includes ministerial suite Includes ministerial suite

Includes ministerial suite

Includes ministerial suite

Federal Members Accommodation—Victoria L eased-as at 25 May 1976

Member/Senator Location Party Electorate

Rental ($) m2pa

Area m2 (sq.ft) Term o f Lease Remarks

K. J. Aldred . . . . . . 43 Chester St, Oakleigh LP Henty

M. Ballieu . . . . . . 109 Boronia Rd, Boronia LP La Trobe

J. W. Bourchier . . . . . Lyric Theatre, Charing Cross, Ben­

digo

LP Bendigo

G. M. Bryant . . . . . 486 Sydney Rd, Coburg ALP Willis

Senator Button . . . . . 42 Station Rd, Cheltenham ALP Senate

J. F. Cairns . . . . . . 27 Devonshire Rd, Sunshine ALP Lalor

Μ. H. Cass . . . . . . 4-6 Russell St, Essendon ALP Maribyrnong

P. D. Falconer . . . . . 2c Station St, Ringwood LP Casey

P. S. Fisher . . . . . . 270 Campbell St, Swan Hill NCP Mallee

H. J. Garrick . . . . . . 240 High St, Northcote ALP Batman

D. J Hamer . . . . . . 463 Main St, Mordialloc LP Isaacs

Senator Tehan . . . . . 148 Allan St, Kyabram ALP Senate

U. E.Innes . . . . . . 200 Lygoh St, Carlton ALP Melbourne

A. W. Jarman . . . . . 8 Rutland Rd, Box Hill LP Deakin

H. A. Jenkins . . . . . 294 High St, Preston ALP Scullin

L. K. Johnson . . . . . 2A Lytton St, Glenroy ALP Burke

R.S. King . . . . . . 92 Wilson St, Horsham NCP Wimmera

B. Lloyd ................... . . 42 High St, Shepparton NCP Murray

P. R. Lynch . . . . . . 484 Nepean Hwy, Frankston LP Flinders

1. M. Macphee . . . . . 6 Riddell Pde, Elsternwick LP Balaclava

P. J. Nixon . . . . . . 158 Nicholson St, Orbost NCP Gippsland

Senator Primmer . . . . 104 Liebig St, Warrnambool ALP Senate

R. F. Shipton . . . . . 39a Glenferrie Rd, Malvern LP Higgins

A. A. Staley . . . . . . 691 Burke Rd, Hawthorn East LP Chisholm

B D. Simon . . . . . . 1 9 b George St, Moe LP McMillan

R. W i l l i s ................... . . 122-124 Nicholson St, Footscray ALP Gellibrand

W. Y a t e s ................... . . 55 Cleeland St, Dandenong LP Holt

60.4 56.98 (5.29) 3yrs 15.7.74

67.82 43.37 (4.03) 3 yrs 1.7.74

38.01 43.15 (4.00) Monthly 9.4.73

58.8 39.00 (3.62) 3 yrs 1.6.75

46.5 48.39 (4.50) 3 yrs 12.1.76

52 39.85 (3.70) 3 yrs 1.5.74

51.1 26.46 (2.46) Monthly 1.3.70

67.7 24.58 (2.28) Monthly 1.4.70

35.3 32.32 (3.00) 2 yrs 1.12.75

88.9 19.30 (1.79) Monthly 1.9.72

56.2 60.14 (5.59) 3 yrs 1.9.74

64 22.82 (2.12) 3 yrs 12.4.76

67.82 46.28 (4.30) 2.4.73 to 30.4.77

81.0 25.68 (2.63) Monthly 1.1.76

72.5 37.30 (3.47) Monthly 18.2.74

53 48.30 (4.49) 3 yrs 1.10.75

37.9 21.95 (2.04) Monthly 29.12.58 53.9 22.26 (2.07) Monthly 1.10.72

60.6 27.33 (2.54) Monthly 1.3.72

45.8 48.34 (4.49) Monthly 16.9.74

70 22.29 (2.07) 3 yrs 24.3.75

40.88 34.70 (3.22) Monthly 1.10.74 56.8 61.62 (5.73) 3 yrs (not stated

yet—to be determined)

40.9 55.26 (5.13) Monthly 24.11.71 55.3 36.98 (3.43) 3 yrs 1.4.76

43 27.35 (2.54) 3 yrs 18.12.74

30.1 34.55 (3.21) Monthly 1.4.76

Federal Members Accommodation—Queensland Government owned—as at 25 May 1976

Area m2 Remarks

Senator Bonner . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane LP Senate 30.66

K. M. Cairns . . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane LP Lilley 47.66

D. M. Cameron . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane LP Griffith 30.66

Senator Colston . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane ALP Senate 30.66

Senator Georges . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane ALP Senate 30.66

J. C. Hodges . . . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane LP Petrie 30.66

P. F. Johnson . . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane LP Brisbane 30.66

D .F.Jull . . . . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane LP Bowman 30.66

Senator Keeffe . . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane ALP Senate 30.66

D. J. Killen . . . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane LP Moreton 79.4

Senator Martin . . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane LP Senate 30.66

D. T. McVeigh . . Australian Government Offices Toowoomba NP Darling Downs 45.06

P. C. Millar . . . Australian Government Offices Maryborough NP Wide Bay 44

J. C. Moore . . . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane LP Ryan 30.66

E. L. Robinson . . Australian Government Offices Brisbane LP McPherson 78.5

Senator Shed . . Australian Parliament Offices Brisbane NP Senator 30.66

D. S. Thomson . . Australian Government Offices Cairns NP Leichhardt 35.3

Deputy Leader of Opposition in Senate Includes ministerial

Ministerial Office

Federal Members Accommodation Queensland—leased—as at 25 May 1976

Rent ($) per m 2

Member/Senator Location Party Electorate Area m1 (persqft)

A. E. Adermann. . Howard

Chambers Nambour

NP Fisher 77 64.58 (6.00)

R. N. Bonnett . . Townsville LP Herbert 42.3 43.02 (4.00)

R. A. Braithwaite . Mackay NP Dawson 108.78 37.67 (3.50)

C. L. Carige . . . Rockhampton NP Capricornia 52.95

19.70

64.58 (6.00) 32.29 (3.00)

J. Corbett . . . Dalby NP Maranoa 46 33.91 (3.15)

W. G. Hayden . . Ipswich ALP Oxley 55.74 45.21 (4.20)

R. G Katter . . . Mt Isa NP Kennedy 61.32 50.23 (4.67)

Senator Keeffe . . Townsville ALP Senate 53.05 31.65 (2.94)

Senator Maunsell . Cairns NP Senate 56 43.06 (4.00)

Senator McAuliffe . Southport ALP Senate 59 21.56 (2.00)

E. L. Robinson . . Southport LP McPherson 56.4 46 (4.27)

Senator Wood . . Mackay LP Senate 108.78 37.67 (3.50)

Senator Collard . Rockhampton NP Senate 34.75 29.06 (2.70)

Term o f Lease

31. 3.79

30.11.78 1.11.76

1.12.77

monthly 29. 2.76 monthly

monthly 18.11.77 1. 7.76 31. 7.77

1.11.76

monthly (pending renewal on term basis)

Remarks

Includes Ministerial

Area to be shared with Senator

Wood Total area leased 72.65m2 effective 52.95m2

Area to be shared with Mr Braith- waite

Federal Members Accommodation—South Australia Leased—as at 25 May 1976

Term o f lease Remarks

Senator B i s h o p ................... 1 King William St, Adelaide ALP Senate 27.6 53.28 (4.95)

C. G. C a m e r o n ................... 1 King William St, Adelaide ALP Hindmarsh 29.7 53.28 (4.95)

Senator D. N. Cameron . . 1 King William St, Adelaide ALP Senate 27.1 53.28 (4.95)

Senator Cavanagh . . . 1 King William St, Adelaide ALP Senate 27.6 53.28 (4.95)

C. G. C h a p m a n ................... Marion City of Shops, Oaklands LP Kingston 41.6 60.07 (5.58)

Senator Davidson . . . . 1 King William St, Adelaide LP Senate 26.9 53.28 (4.95)

G .O ’H. Giles ................... 1 King William St, Adelaide LP Angas 28 53.28 (4.95)

Senator R. S. Hall . . . . 33 King William St, Adelaide LM Senate 52.8 57.59 (5.35)

C. J. Hurford .................... 1 King William St, Adelaide ALP Adelaide 27.7 53.28 (4.95)

R.Jacobi ............................. 1 King William St, Adelaide ALP Hawker 28.4 53.28 (4.95)

Senator D. S. Jessop . . . 1 King William St, Adelaide LP Senate ' 28.6 53.28 (4.95)

C. R. Kelly ........................ 1 King William St, Adelaide LP Wakefield 29.7 53.28 (4.95)

Senator C. L. Laucke . . . 1 King William St, Adelaide LP Senate 86.39 53.28 (4.95)

Senator McLaren . . . . 6 Third Ave, Murray Bridge ALP Senate 58.5 25.39 (2.36)

J. E. McLeay .................... 82 Marion St, Unley LP Boothby 23.7 54.88 (5.10)

Senator Messner . . . . 1 King William St, Adelaide LP Senate 29.5 53.28 (4.95)

Μ. H. N i c h o l l s ................... Sydney Chambers, Elizabeth ALP Bonython 32.5 27.98 (2.60)

J. Porter ............................. 1 King William St, Adelaide LP Barker 27.6 53.28 (4.95)

L. G. W a l l i s ........................ El Alamein Rd, Port Augusta ALP Grey 39 23.68 (2.20)

I. B. C. Wilson ................... 613 Magill Rd, Magill LP Sturt 42.2 37.12 (3.45)

Senator H. W. Young . . 1 King William St, Adelaide LP Senate 27 53.28 (4.95)

M. J. Y o u n g ........................ Shop 4 5 b West, Lakes Mall ALP Port Adelaide 43.8 75.35 (7.00)

Senator R. Bishop . . . . 1 King William St, Adelaide ALP Senate 26.5 53.28

31.1.80 31.1.80 31.1.80 31.1.80

3 yrs 15.11.76 31.1.80 31.1.80

30.6.78 31.1.80 31.1.80 31.1.80

31.1.80 31.1.80 30.6.77 22.12.76

31.1.80 11.6.76 31.1.80 3 yrs 9.1.79

31.12.75 31.1.80 3 yrs 13.11.77 31.1.80

See Note 1 See Note 2

See Note 1

See Note 2

See Note 2 See Note 2

See Note 2

See Note 3

See Note 2

See Note 4

Note 1 -Both Senator Bishop and Senator Cavanagh are still occupying their previous Ministerial Suites and the areas shown are the areas of the suites likely to be allocated to each. Note 2-All areas shown in 1 King William Street are for the individual offices of the Member and Electorate Secretary only. Space occupied by Research Assistants (where employed) and space for ancillary facilities,se g. Reception. Waiting, Photo-copy room, storerooms etc. are not proportioned into the stated areas. The total area of the Parliamentary Offices 15th floor, A M P. Building, 1 King

Note 3-The Honourable J. E. McLeay is retaining his Electorate Office at Unley pending a decision by the Minister of Administrative Services. Note 4-Leasing procedures are in hand to renew the lease for a further period of two years with a right of renewal for a similar period. Note 5-All areas shown in 1 King William Street are for the offices of the Senators and Steno-secretaries only. Space occupied by Research Assistants (where employed) and space for ancillary facilities, e.g. reception, waiting, photo-copy room, storerooms, visiting Ministers and Members suites etc. are not proportioned into the stated areas. The total area of the Parliamentary Offices 15th floor A M P

Budding, 1 King William Street is 1075 square metres.

K. E. Beazley . . Parliament Offices

Hamersley House

ALP Fremantle 36.5 48.71 (4.52)

Μ. H.Bungey . . Shop 3, No. 18 Jull

St, Armadale

LP Canning 48.1 37.82 (3.50)

F. M. Chaney . . Hamersley House LP Senate 29.7 48.71 (4.52)

R. N. Coleman . . Hamersley House ALP Senate 30.1 48.71 (4.52)

J. F. Cotter . . . Exchange Building,

Hannan St, Kalgoorlie LP Kalgoorlie 33.4 24.86 (2.30)

J. F. Cotter . . . Richardson Forum,

Port Hedland

LP Kalgoorlie 30.1 53.82. (5.00)

T. C. Drake- Brockman

Hamersley House NCP Senate 37.4 48.71 (4.52)

P. D. Durack . . Hamersley House LP Senate 29.7 48.71 (4.52)

P. H. Drummond . Cnr Duke and Collie Streets, Albany LP Forrest 34.0 26.91 (2.50)

R. V. Garland . . Hamersley House LP Curtin 80.63 48.71 (4.52)

J. M. Hyde . . . Hamersley House LP Moore 29.7 48.71 (4.52)

J. R. Martyr . . . 2 a Basinghall St,

Vic. Park

LP Swan 55.7 30.71 (2.85)

G. D. McIntosh . Hamersley House ALP Senate 30.9 48.71 (4.52)

R. M. McLean . . Hamersley House LP Perth 30.1 48.71 (4.52)

P. A. Richardson . Hamersley House LP Tangney 30.1 48.71 (4.52)

J. P. Sim . . . . Hamersley House LP Senate 30.9 48.71 (4.52)

A. M. Thomas . . Hamersley House LP Senate 29.7 48.71 (4.52)

R. I. Vtner . . . Karrinyup Shopping

Centre, Karrinyup

LP Stirling 40.6 48.44 (4.50)

P. A. Walsh . . . Hamersley house ALP Senate 29.7 48.71 (4.52)

J. W. Wheeldon . Hamersley House ALP Senate 80.63 48.71 (4.52)

R. G. Withers . . Hamersley House LP Senate 80.63 44.67 (4.52)

See Note

2.12.74-1.12.77

See Note See Note Monthly

9.1.75- 31.3.78

See Note

See Note 1.5.75- 30.4.77

See Note See Note 1.5.75-30.4.77

See Note See Note See Note See Note See Note

1.12.74-30.11.77 Electorate Office

See Note See Note See Note Minister for Adminis­

trative Services.

NOTE: Parliament Offices, Hamersley House located 8th and 9th floors-Hamersley House, 191 St George’s Terrace, Perth. Lease Term: 1.5.71 to 30.4.77 Mr Garland and Senator Wheeldon remaining in Ministerial suites until Senator Walsh and Mr Richardson move to Electorate Offices. Accommodation obtained for Mr Richardson in the Garden City House, 125 Risley St, Booragoon. Anticipated date of occupation mid-June-area 46.4 sq m -R ental $45.75 p.a. sq m ($4.25). Lease Term: 21.5.76-20.5.79.

Federal Members Accommodation—Tasmania—Leased as at 25 May 1976

Name Location o f Office Party Electorate

Area

occupied m1

Senator B. A r c h e r ........................ Brownell PI, Off 11 Wilson St, Burnie LP 53.42

M. Burr, M.P.................................... 55 Cameron St, Launceston LP Wilmot 46.45

Senator D. D e v i t t ........................ Best St, Devonport ALP 51.10

B. Goodluck, M.P............................. 1 Franklin Wharf, Hobart, 3 Percy

Bellerive

St, LP Franklin 32.42

1 17.56

Senator D. Grimes .................... Centreway Arcade, Off 19 Paterson

Launceston

St, ALP 37.25

R. Groom, M.P................................. 67 Mount St, Burnie LP Braddon 42.36

Senator B. Harradine . . . . 65 Murray St, Hobart Ind. $46.45

M. Hodgman, M.P........................... 1 Franklin Wharf, Hobart LP Denison 47.38

K. Newman (Minister for Repatri­ ation) 56 George St, Launceston LP Bass 85.84

Senator J. O ’Byrne .................... 56 George St, Launceston ALP 71.21

Senator Rae ............................. 55 Cameron St, Launceston LP 46.45

Senator M. T o w n l e y .................... 86 Collins St, Hobart LP 30.10

Senators. Walters .................... 1 Franklin Wharf, Hobart LP 53.61

Senator K. Wriedt .................... 1 Franklin Wharf, Hobart ALP §129.88

Senator R. Wright ................... 1 Franklin Wharf, Hobart LP 32.70

* Plus 27.87m: common storage space t Temporary offices on Eastern Shore following collapse ofTasman Bridge t Tentative accommodation at present time § Leader of the Opposition in the Senate

Rental ($) pa m2 (per sqft) A rea leased

24.22 (2.25) 3 years 12.8.74 53.82 (5.00) 5 years 15.12.75 15.26 (1.42) 3 years 1.7.74 50.05 (4.65) 5 years 3.8.72

14.81 (1.38) Quarterly 1.3.75 48.32 (4.49) 3 years 1.8.74

30.69 (2.85) 2 years 16.7.75 57.05 (5.30) 5 years 12.7.75 50.05 (4.65) 5 years 3.8.72 34.21 (3.18) 5 years 1.7.73

34.21 (3.18) 5 years 1.7.73 53.82 (5.00) 3 years 15.8.75 56.52 (5.25) 3 years 1.7.74 50.05 (4.65) 5 years 3.8.72

50.05 (4.65) 5 years 3.8.72 50.05 (4.65) 5 years 3.8.72

ATTACHMENT F

SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A

Information requested by Senator Douglas McClelland— Hansard report page 27

Division 5 70—Administrative The legal costs provision on a State basis is:

$

New South Wales ......................................................................... 1750

Victoria ............................................................................................ 1 167

Q u e e n s la n d ....................................................................................... 3 500

South Australia .............................................................................. 350

Western Australia ......................................................................... 1 167

Tasmania ....................................................................................... 3 208

Australian Capital Territory .......................................................... 57358

68 500

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ATTACHM ENT G

SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A

Information requested by Senator McLaren—Hansard report page 30

Division 5 74—State and Electorate Office o f Ministers and Members o f the A ustralian Parliament—S ta ff and Services The attached statements provide the names of members, the location of offices and the costs associated with the movement of electorate offices following the December election.

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Relocation of Electorate Offices Since December 1975

Name Electorate Location Aream 2

Rent Spm 2

Μ. E. Baume . . . . . . MacArthur 100 Queen Street, Campbelltown 35.1 22.22

Senator R. C. Cotton . . . Senate Commonwealth Bank Building,

Martin Plaza

111.5 64.05

J.D. M.Dobie . . . . . Cook 347-357 Port Hacking Road,

Caringbah

60.4 75.00

A. .1. McKenzie . . . . . Calare 18 Sale Street, Orange 52.8 57.15

Senator T. J. Tehan . . . . Senate 148 Allan Street, Kyabram 64.00 22.82

R. F. Shipton . . . . . . Higgins 39A Glenferrie Road, Malvern 56.80 61.62

W. Yates ................... . . Holt 552 Cleeland Street, Dandenong 30.10 34.55

S. E. Calder, DFC . . . . Northern

Territory

47 Mitchell Street, Darwin 46.50 83.93

M. A. B u r r ................... . . Wilmot 55 Cameron Street, Launceston 46.5

K.. E. Newman . . . . . Bass 54 George Street, Launceston 85.8

Fit out $ Remarks

New Member Former Leased Space Terminated

9000 Former Leased Space Terminated

Former Leased Space Terminated 2220 New Senator Former Leased Space Terminated

Former Leased Space Terminated Former Leased Space Terminated

Moved into space vacated by K. E. Newman. Space leased prior to election Moved into space vacated by M. A.

Burr. Space leased prior to election.

Approval Given for Relocation of Electorate Offices—Not Effected

Name Electorate Location Area m'

Rent Spm 2

Fit out $ Remarks

R. J. Groom ................... .... Braddon Brownell Place, Burnie

J. A. Abel ............................. Evans 2-4 Holden Street, Ashfield

P. R. Lynch ........................ Flinders 3A Wells Street, Frankston

Dr P. A. Richardson . . . . Tangney Booragoon Shopping Centre

Senator P. A. Walsh . . . . Senate 3 Norfolk Street, Fremantle

Senator A. M. Thomas . . . Senate ‘Town Towers’, Geraldton

67.4 25.31 1200 Treasury approval conditional upon

surrender of existing space

64.1 64.05 5000 Treasury has approved

62.5 33.55 6150 Treasury has approved

46 45.75 4000 Treasury has approved

59.5 48.40 3300

46.5 49.46 3700

PARLIAM ENT OF AUSTRALIA

Minister for

Administrative Services

25 May 1976

Senator!. P. Sim Chairman Senate Estimates Committee A parliament House

Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

Dear Senator Sim,

During the Committee’s examination of the Estimates of the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet I undertook to provide further information on the Australia Council’s Annual Report and the proclamation of the Children’s Com­ mission Act.

I am informed that the Australia Council is preparing a set of financial statements for the period 13 March 1975 to 30 June 1975. The Council hopes to have the state­ ments ready for presentation to Parliament during the Autumn Session. These state­ ments will cover the period from 13 March 1975 when the Australia Council’s enabling legislation, the Australia Council Act 1975, came into operation.

As you would know, a report by the Council’s predecessor, the Australian Council for the Arts, was tabled in Parliament last week. That report covered the calendar year 1974 and up to March 1975 when the Australian Council for the Arts was super­ seded.

Administrative arrangements for childhood services have been under review. The Government will not make a decision on the proclamation of the Children’s Com­ mission Act until it has completed that review.

Yours sincerely,

R. G. WITHERS

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DEPARTM ENT OF FO R EIG N AFFAIRS

Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

24 May 1976

Senator J. P. Sim Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T.

Dear Senator Sim,

In the course of your Committee’s examination on 18 May of our additional estimates under Div. 305/4/01, I undertook to provide further information sought by Senator Knight regarding the Australian contribution to the International Fabour Office. This is now set out below:

The IFO prepares its Budgets on a biennial basis. The currency used for the ma­ jority of its accounts, including salaries, is the Swiss franc (SF). Contributions of members are assessed in United States dollars.

The exchange rate used for conversion of the US$ contribution to SF for the 1974-75 biennium budget was a constant SF3.10 = US$. During the period the Swiss franc hardened against the U.S. dollar (and other currencies). The draft program and budget (prepared in January 1975) provided for the estimated cost of activities in

1976-77 on the basis of the constant exchange rate of 3.10 SF = US$. It also contained a special appropriation line for an additional US$10 100 000 estimated for 1976 on the basis of an average exchange rate of SF2.51 to the US$, this rate being closer to the actual position at the time of the Governing Body’s consideration of the 1976-77

Budget Estimates. This special appropriation was intended to make partial provision for the effects of exchange rate adj ustments.

In addition, the 1976-77 Budget provides for the partial reimbursement of US$8 000 000 to the Working Capital Fund ( WCF) in 1976 for amounts withdrawn from the WCF during 1974-75.

Since these two provisions of the Budget are applicable to 1976 only, the Budget, as recommended by the Governing Body, is exceptionally divided unequally between 1976 and 1977.

The table (attached) shows the effect exchange fluctuations have had on the IFO Budget for 1976-77 after being recosted at the exchange rate of US$ = 2.51 Swiss francs plus the provision in 1976 for the one time payment of US$ 18 100 000 as indi­ cated above. In addition, the US$ hardened against the Australian dollar. In March

1975 the rate was $A = US$1.3711. At the end of April 1976 it fell to

$A = US$1.2372. Although this did not affect the IFO Budget it has meant that Australia has had to provide additional funds to meet its US$ contribution.

A. D. CAMPBEFF

Assistant Secretary, International Organisations Branch

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1974-75 Biennium

(All figures in U.S. dollars) 1976-77 Biennium 1976-77 Biennium

U.S.$ = 3.10 SF Constant U.S.S = 5.10 SF Constant U.S. $ = 2.51 SF Recosted

93 569 000 Total Budget divided as below: 1974 45 134 500 (Australian contribution @

1.83% = U.S.$825 962) 1975 48 434 500 (Australian contribution @ 1.77% = U.S.$798 880)

107 824 000 % increase over 1974-75 = 15.23% (This would approxim ate the General European inflation rate for the period 1974-75.) %

increase of SF exchange rate against the U.S.S, i.e. 3.10 to 2.51 = 19.30%. These two factors above account for a 34.53%

increase over the 1974-75 budget figure.

143 982 000 Total Budget. (% increase does not include the amount of 10 100 000 global pro­ vision to cover shortfalls arising in 1976 out of changes in

exchange rates.) Divided as below: 1976 81 041 000 (includes once only payment of $8 000 000 reimbursement to the

W orking C apital Fund and $10 100 000 exchange variation provision.) A u s tra lia n c o n trib u tio n @

1.57% = U.S.S 1 272 344 1977 62 941 000 (Australian contribution @ 1.43%= U.S.S900 056)

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Minutes of Proceeding

1

THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A

MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS No. 1

TUESDAY, 18 MAY 1976

1. MEETING: The Committee met at 4.00 p.m.

2. APPOINTMENT OF ESTIMATES COMMITTEES, REFERENCE OF AD­ DITIONAL ESTIMATES TO COMMITTEE AND MEMBERSHIP: The Resolu­ tions of the Senate of 28 and 29 April and 6 May 1976, relating to the appointment of Estimates Committees, the reference of the Additional Departmental Estimates to the Committee, appointment of members and extension of time for the Committees to report were reported to the Committee.

3. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN: On the motion of Senator Scott, Senator Sim was elected Chairman of the Committee.

4. CONSIDERATION OF PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED EXPENDITURE: Pursuant to Order of the Senate, the Committee proceeded to consider the particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for the Service of the Year ending 30 June 1976,

relating to the following departmental estimates:

Document* Page Division No. Department Amount

A 8-13 410-685 Administrative Services ...................

$

. . 26 223 000

A 24 250 Rem ( Defence) .................................. . . 3 485 000

B 4 933-975 Administrative Services ................... . . 1 501 000

A 6 101-108 P a rlia m e n t........................................... . . 819 000

A 46-48 500-520 Prime Minister and Cabinet . . . . . . 6 921 000

B 10 915-917 Prime Minister and Cabinet . . . . . . 49 640 000

A 38-39 430-436 National R e s o u rc e s ............................. . . 2 513 000

B 8 883-884 National R e s o u rc e s ............................. . . 4 958 000

A 32-33 305-308 Foreign Affairs .................................. . . 14 342 000

B 7 846-847 Foreign Affairs .................................. . . 302 000

A 22-24 230-241 D e fe n c e * * ........................................... . . 81 614000

* Document A—‘Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for the Service of the year ending 30 June 1976’. * Document B— ‘Particulars of Certain Proposed Additional Expenditure in respect of the year ending on 30 June 1976’. ** Excluding item under the control of the Department of Administrative Services (Division 250).

5. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76: DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES-The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 410-685 — Department of Administrative Services (Document A). Division 250 — Rent (Defence) Divisions 933-975 — Department of Administrative Services (Document B).

Appearing: Senator the Hon. R. G. Withers, Minister for Administrative Services, ac­ companied by the following officers:

Department of Administrative Services: Property Division: Mr M. Frankcom, Assistant Secretary Mr P. Cleary, Acting Assistant Secretary

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Survey Division: Mr J. W. Sleep, Deputy Surveyor-General Grants and Territories Division: Mr B. Hinchcliffe, Assistant Secretary

Mr A. Shakespeare, Assistant Secretary Mr V. Mawhinney, Clerk Purchasing Division: Mr G. Low, First Assistant Secretary

Mr T. McElroy, Director, Finance and General Services Royal Commissions Branch: Mr R. Wise, Principal Executive Officer Ministerial and Parliamentary Branch:

Mr P. Woodham, Executive Officer Electoral Office: Mr Hegarty, Director, Management Services Australian Government Publishing Service:

Mr T. Coppin, Director, Management Services Australian Office of Information: Mr K. D. Bogg, Executive Officer Australian War Memorial:

Mr N. J. Flanagan, Director Remuneration Tribunal: Mr F. C. Boyle, Secretary Finance Co-ordination:

Mr D. R. White, Assistant Secretary (Finance) Mr B. Palmer, Acting Assistant Secretary (Establishments and Personnel) Mr B. Coughlin, Director, Finance Mr P. Priestly, Senior Finance Officer Department o f the Treasury:

Mr R. K. Caldwell, Senior Finance Officer Mr M. G. Napier, Finance Officer

The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expenditure for the Department of Administrative Services.

THE PARLIAMENT—The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 101-108 — Parliament (Document A).

Appearing: The President of the Senate, Senator the Hon. C. L. Laucke, accompanied by the following officers: Department of the Senate Mr J. R. Odgers, Clerk of the Senate

Mr H. G. Smith, Usher of the Black Rod Mr R. G. Mair, Senior Parliamentary Officer (Administration) Department of the Parliamentary Reporting Staff Mr W. J. Bridgman, Principal Parliamentary Reporter

Mr F. W. Temperly, Administrative Officer Joint House Department Mr R. W. Hillyer, Secretary

Mr R. L. Burrell, Chief Executive Officer

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Department o f the Treasury; Mr R. K. Caldwell, Senior Finance Officer Mr M. G. Napier, Finance Officer

The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expenditure for the Parliament.

DEPARTMENT OF THE PRIME MINISTER AND CABINET— The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 500-520 — Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (Document A). Divisions 915-917 — Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (Document B).

Appearing: Senator the Hon. R. G. Withers, Minister for Administrative Services, ac­ companied by the following officers:

Department o f the Prime Minister and Cabinet: Mr J. G. Hinton, Acting First Assistant Secretary, Operations Division Mr W. N. Weidner, Senior Executive Officer, Finance and Accounts Australian Authors Fund—

Mr R. Hall, Chairman Office of the Interim Committee for the Children’s Commission— Mr J. B. Machin, Acting Director Mrs A. Kern, Acting Assistant Director, Research and Policy Branch

Mr N. J. Lamb, Acting Assistant Director, Programs Branch Australian Film Commission— Mr P. Martin, Commissioner Mr B. Gittings, Secretary

Mr S. Martin, Senior Executive Officer Mr J. Wood, Senior Executive Officer (Film Australia) Auditor-General’s Office— Mr R. G. Rose, First Assistant Auditor-General

Mr V. P. Hingston, Executive Officer, Finance and Services Public Service Board— Mr K. F. Paul, Acting Secretary Mr C. J. Carder, Acting Assistant Director, Management Services

Department o f the Treasury: Mr R. K. Caldwell, Senior Finance Officer Mr M. G. Napier, Finance Officer

The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed expenditure for the De­ partment of the Prime Minister and Cabinet.

DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL RESOURCES-The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 430-436—Department of National Resources (Document A). Divisions 883-884—Department of National Resources (Document B).

Appearing: Senator the Hon. R. G. Withers, Minister for Administrative Services, accompanied by the following officers:

Department o f National Resources:

Mr R. H. J. Thompson, Assistant Secretary (Management Services) Mr A. Manderson, Assistant Secretary (Water Resources Branch) Mr L. R. Riches, Assistant Director ( Finance)

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Mr K. R. Vale, Assistant Director, Bureau of Mineral Resources, Geology and Geophysics Mr B. P. Lambert, Director, Division of National Mapping Pipeline Authority—

Mr F. W. Noble, Finance Manager Mr W. E. Woodward, Chief Accountant Mr Μ. N. Hayes, Budgetary Controller Australian Atomic Energy Commission—

Mr A. D. Thomas, Secretary Mr R. C. Coles, Director of Finance M rD . R. Griffiths, Head of Uranium Branch The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expenditure

for the Department of National Resources.

DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN A FFA IRS-The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 305-308—Department of Foreign Affairs (Document A). Divisions 846-847—Department of Foreign Affairs (Document B).

Appearing: Senator the Hon. R. G. Withers, Minister for Administrative Services, accompanied by the following officers:

Department o f Foreign Ajfairs: Mr D. C. Goss, Assistant Secretary, Administrative Services Branch Mr R. E. Johns, Director (Finance) Mr I. J. Meszes, Finance Officer (Estimates) Mr W. R. Watson, Finance Officer (Forward Estimates) Mr K. W. Brazel, Head of Information and Publications Section Mr E. G. Dobson, Director, ADP Section Mr A. D. Campbell, Assistant Secretary, International Organisations Branch Australian Development Assistance Agency:

Mr P. Kelloway, Acting First Assistant Secretary, Secretariat Division Mr L. W. Temby, Assistant Secretary, Finance Branch Mr N. W. Hunt, Senior Executive Officer, Finance Branch Mr G. E. Mannall, Senior Executive Officer, Staffing Assistance Branch Miss R. McGovern, Senior Executive Officer, Programs Branch The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expenditure for the Department of Foreign Affairs.

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE—The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 230-241 —Department of Defence (Document A).

Appearing: Senator the Hon. R. G. Withers, Minister for Administrative Services, accompanied by the following officers:

Department o f Defence: Mr P. D. Naughton, Assistant Secretary, Budgets and Estimates (General & Co-ordination) Mr M. J. Madden, Assistant Secretary, Budgets & Estimates (Services) Mr Μ. N. Woolley, Assistant Secretary, Financial Programs Mr G. M. Taylor, Assistant Secretary, Defence Industry Development Mr W. L. Hanks, Assistant Secretary, Civil Personnel

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Mr G. L. Pears, Assistant Secretary, International Policy (Papua New Guinea and Defence Co-operation) Mr P. E. Bazley, Chief Executive Officer, Manpower Development and Control

Commodore R. Percy, Director-General, Joint Plans and Operations Mr P. F. McNamara, Assistant Secretary, Resources Planning (Navy) Mr T. E. Sullivan, Assistant Secretary, Resources Planning (Army) Mr D. B. Shine, Assistant Secretary, Resources Planning (Air)

Mr Η. P, Jones, Assistant Secretary, Administration, Defence Science Administration Mr A. F. Kent, Assistant Secretary, Project Planning and Evaluation Mr K. Goffey, Principal Executive Officer, Natural Disasters Organisation

Mr D. J. McCallum, Director, Industrial Relations Department o f the Treasury: Mr R. K. Caldwell, Senior Finance Officer

Mr M. G. Napier, Finance Officer The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expenditure for the Department of Defence.

6. ADJOURNMENT: The committee adjourned at 9.53 p.m.

7. ATTENDANCE: The following members of the Committee were present: Senator Sim (Chairman), and Senators Knight, Douglas McClelland, McIntosh, McLaren and Scott.

Senator Durack also took part in the Committee’s proceedings.

J. P. SIM Chairman

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THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE A

MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS No. 2

THURSDAY, 20 MAY 1976

1. MEETING: The Committee met in deliberative session, at 2.15 p.m. The Chair­ man (Senator Sim) took the Chair.

2. MINUTES: The Minutes of the meeting held on Tuesday, 18 May 1976 were read and confirmed.

3. REPORT OF THE COMMITTEE: The Chairman presented a draft report for the Committee’s consideration. The draft report was considered, and amendments agreed to subject to confirmation by members of the Committee after circulation in typed form.

4. ADJOURNMENT: The Committee adjourned at 2.37 p.m.

5. ATTENDANCE: The following members of the Committee were present: Senator Sim (Chairman), Senators Knight, Douglas McClelland and Scott.

J. P. SIM

Chairman

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE B

REPORT TO THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE B

REPORT TO THE SENATE

Estimates Committee B has the honour to present its Report to the Senate.

1. On 28 April 1976, the Senate referred to the Committee the Estimates for the year 1975-76 relating to the following Departments:

Department of Environment, Housing and Community Development Department of Employment and Industrial Relations Attorney-General’s Department Department of Business and Consumer Affairs

2. The Committee has considered these Estimates and has received explanations of them from Ministers and officers representing the Department’s concerned. A copy of the Minutes of Procedings and Hansard reports of the evidence taken by the Com­ mittee are tabled for the information of the Senate in connection with Appropriation

Bill (No. 3) 1975-76 and Appropriation Bill (No. 4) 1975-76.

3. Subsequent to the Committee’s examination of the estimates referred, further information was forwarded to the Committee in reply to specific questions raised dur­ ing the proceedings. Copies of these replies are attached as an Appendix to the Report.

4. The Committee draws the attention of the Senate to the following:

(a) During the examination of the proposed expenditure for the Department of Employment and Industrial Relations the Committee noted the small amount of money made available for advertising elections for trade unions and other organizations. Concern was expressed that a small inconspicuous

advertisement could escape the notice of a majority of members and render valueless even the small expenditure. The Committee recommends that con­ sideration be given to obtaining value for the public funds expended by

increasing the size and prominence of such advertisements.

(b) The Committee commends to the Senate the practice which occurred during the Committee’s proceedings whereby a Senator, who has a personal interest in a matter being considered by the Committee, declares the nature of his interest prior to his examination of the witnesses. Such action materially

assists the Committee in its consideration of the matter and the witness in their approach to the questions.

(c) When hearing evidence from officers of the Department of Business and Consumer Affairs questions were raised regarding the possible use of a com­ puter system by more than one government department. Members expressed concern at the security of personal information which may be stored in such a

system and the adequate protection of the privacy of individuals. The Minis­ ter, Senator Webster, promised to obtain detailed information for Senators relating to the multi use of a computer system and existing security systems whereby personal information provided for a specific purpose is protected to

ensure that the individual’s right to privacy is not invaded. 5

5. Committee members regret that due to ill-health the Minister for Environ­ ment, Housing and Community Development, Senator Greenwood, was not able to be present at this meeting.

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6. The Committee places on record its appreciation of the detailed written expla­ nations which were provided to Senators prior to the hearings, and also the evidence given by the Ministers who attended in the absence of Senator Greenwood, and the officers of the various Departments who assisted the Committee during the inquiry.

P. E. RAE Chairman

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Minutes of Proceedings

THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE B

MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS No. 1

TUESDAY, 18 MAY 1976

1. MEETING: The Committee met at 4 p.m.

2. ESTABLISHMENT OF COMMITTEE AND REFERENCE OF PARTICU­ LARS OF ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE FOR 1975-76. The Resolutions of the Senate of 28 and 29 April 1976 establishing Estimates Committees and referring the Particulars of Additional Expenditure for 1975-76 to them for examination and

report were reported to the Committee.

3. MEMBERSHIP OF THE COMMITTEE: The entry in the Journals of the Senate of 29 April 1976, relating to the appointment of members of Estimates Committees was reported to the Committee. Estimates Committee B to consist of:

Senator D. S. Jessop Senator J. R. McClelland Senator J. A. Mulvihill Senator K. W. Sibraa

Senator T. J. Tehan Senator P. E. Rae

4. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN: On the motion of Senator Jessop, Senator Rae was elected Chairman of the Committee.

Senator Rae thereupon took the Chair.

5. STATEMENT BY CHAIRMAN: The Chairman made a statement relating to the procedure to be followed by the Committee in its examination of the Particulars of Additional Expenditure for the Service of the year ending 30 June 1976, and stated that, pursuant to the Order of the Senate of 28 April 1976, the Committee would con­

sider the following departmental estimates:

Division

Document* * Page No. Department Amount

$

A 31 295-685 Environm ent, Housing and Community

D e v e lo p m e n t................................................ 1 747 000

B 6 860 Environm ent, Housing and Community

D e v e lo p m e n t................................................ 26 000

A 29-30 365-368 Employment and Industrial Relations . . 7 589 000

A 14-15 165-175 Attorney-General’s ....................................... 799 000

A 16-17 171-629 Business and Consumer A f f a i r s ..................... 6 813 000

B 4 826-909 Business and Consumer A f f a i r s ..................... 1 625 000

* Document A—‘Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for the Service of the year ending 30 June 1976’. * Document B— ‘Particulars of Certain Proposed Additional Expenditure in respect of the year ending on 30 June 1976’.

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6. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTM ENT OF ENVIRONM ENT, HOUSING A N D COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:

Appearing: Senator the Hon. J. L. Carrick, Minister for Education and Minister representing the Acting Minister for Environment, Housing and Community Development, accompanied by the following officers:

Mr H. J. Higgs, Director of Environment Mr A. J. Selleck, First Assistant Secretary, Housing Division Mr R. B. Brown, O.B.E., General Manager, Commonwealth Hostels Ltd Mr V. Kane, Assistant Secretary, Conservation Programs Branch

Mr P. G. Gifford, Acting First Assistant Secretary, Management Division Mr F. Kovachevich, Acting Director, Finance Mr L. W. Walsh, Acting Assistant Director Finance

Department o f the Treasury: Mr C. J. Dolman, Senior Finance Officer

The Chairman called upon the following division for consideration:

Divisions 295-685 — Department of Environment, Housing and Community Development (Document A) $1 747 000

Division 860 — Department of Environment, Housing and Community Develop­ ment (Document B) $26 000

The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expendi­ ture for the Department of Environment, Housing and Community Development.

7. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT AND INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS:

Appearing: Senator the Hon. R. C. Cotton, Minister for Industry and Commerce representing the Minister for Employment and Industrial Relations, accompanied by the following officers:

Mr B. Tregillis, Deputy Secretary Mr J. Cooley, Assistant Secretary, Finance and Information Mr J. Bird, Senior Finance Officer

Department o f the Treasury: Mr C. J. Dolman, Senior Finance Officer The Chairman called upon the following divisions for consideration:

Divisions 365-368 — Department of Employment and Industrial Relations (Document A) $7 589 000 The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expendi­ ture for the Department of Employment and Industrial Relations.

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8. PA R TIC U LA R S OF PR O PO SED A D D IT IO N A L E X PE N D IT U R E 1975-76-ATTORNEY-GENERAL’S DEPARTMENT:

Appearing: Senator the Hon. R. C. Cotton, Minister for Industry and Commerce representing the Attorney-General, accompanied by the following officers:

Mr J. T. O ’Connor, First Assistant Secretary ( Management Services) Mr K. B. Mourant, Industries Assistance Commission Mr P. Toohey, Finance Officer, Industries Assistance Commission Mr R. L. Harrison, Trade Practices Commission

Mr F. I. Kelly, Assistant Secretary (Management) Department o f the Treasury: Mr C. J. Dolman, Senior Finance Officer The Chairman called upon the following divisions for consideration:

Divisions 165-175 — Attorney-General’s Department (Document A) $799 000

The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expendi­ ture for the Attorney-General’s Department.

9. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND CONSUMER AFFAIRS: Appearing: Senator the Hon. J. J. Webster, Minister for Science and Minister representing the Minister for Business and Consumer Affairs, accompanied by the fol­

lowing officers:

Mr A. C. C. Menzies, First Assistant Secretary (Justice and Family Law Division) Mr K. M. Crotty, First Assistant Secretary (Management and Special Services Division) Mr J. P. Harkins, Director (Australian Legal Aid Office) Mr J. B. Fisher, Acting Senior Assistant Secretary, (Federal Courts Branch)

Mr J. Mikelsons, Director (Finance) Department o f the Treasury: Mr C. J. Dolman, Senior Finance Officer The Chairman called upon the following divisions for consideration:

Divisions 171-629 — Business and Consumer Affairs (Document A) $6 813 000 Divisions 826-909 — Business and Consumer Affairs (Document B) $1 625 000

The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed expenditure for the Department of Business and Consumer Affairs.

10. DELIBERATIVE MEETING: For the purpose of considering a draft report the Committee went into deliberative session. It was agreed, after debate, that a draft report be prepared by the Chairman and forwarded to each member for consideration.

11. ADJOURNMENT: The Committee adjourned at 8.55 p.m.

12. ATTENDANCE: All members of the Committee were present, as well as Sena­ tors Walters and Harradine. λ Γ · r .. f

Chairman

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THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE B MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS No. 2

THURSDAY, 20 MAY 1976

1. MEETING: The Committee met at 5.45 p.m. The Chairman (Senator Rae) took the Chair.

2. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT: The Committee considered the draft report distributed by the Chairman and on the motion of Senator Jessop the Draft report was adopted.

3. ADJOURNMENT: The Committee adjourned.

4. ATTENDANCE: The following members of the Committee were present: Senators Jessop, Rae, Tehan, Sibraa.

P. E. RAE Chairman

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Appendix

DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

Lombard House, Allara Street,

Canberra City, A.C.T. 2601

The Secretary Senate Estimates Committee B Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE B ADDITIONAL ESTIMATES

During the examination of additional estimates by Senate Estimates Committee B on Tuesday 18 May, Senator Carrick the Minister representing this Department agreed to make additional information available on the following matters.

Questions by Senator Mulvihill 1. In relation to Division 295.3.02 (International Union for the Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources—Membership), can we find out who the office bearers are and will we send a representative over there occasionally? 2. At what stage are we with the result of that wetland survey? Is that something your

existing staff is evaluating? What is the position? 3. When can a reply be expected to representations made by Senator Mulvihill on behalf of a group of ornithologists in Western Australia in regard to the effects of pesticides on marshlands?

Answer to question 1 The reply to this question is contained in Attachment 1.

Answer to questions 2 and 3 Replies to Senator Mulvihill’s questions Nos 2 and 3 have been prepared by the Department and are expected to be signed by the Acting Minister in the near future.

Question by Senator Sibraa Division 295.3.02—International Union for the Conservation of Nature and Natu­ ral Resources—Membership. 4. I find that Australia pays its way while a number of other countries are always in

arrears or are not paying. I wondered whether we could get a statement as to what the situation is with this committee?

Answer to question 4 The reply to this question is contained in Attachment 2.

Question by Senator Jessop Division 295.5.06 Public Environmental Awareness Program. 5. Was the Public Environmental Awareness Program successful, and do I take it that this program has been terminated, or do you envisage that when economic

circumstances permit such programs ought to be continued?

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A copy of the following documents have been supplied by Dr McMichael, Director-General of Environment, direct to Senator Jessop for his perusal— • ‘Spectrums ’ report on Public Attitudes to the Environment; and • ‘Spectrums’ evaluation report on the Environment Public Awareness

Campaign.

Answer to question 5

R. B. LANSDOWN Secretary

ATTACHMENT 1

A list of the members of the Executive Board which includes the Chairman and Vice Chairman of IU C N ’s several Commissions, is attached. Half the members of this Board (including Dr D. F. McMichael) were elected in September 1975 at the 12th General Assembly of IUCN, and their term of office is until 1981. The other half were

elected at the 11th General Assembly in September 1972 and their term of office expires in 1978. It will be noted that Dr McMichael, Director-General of Environment, is a Vice President and therefore also a member of the Executive Committee. He has attended

Board Meetings, since his election last year, at Kinshasa, Zaire (19 September 1975) and Merges, Switzerland (13-15 May 1975) and of the Executive Committee, Merges, Switzerland (31 January and 1 February 1976). Professor J. D. Ovington now Acting as Director of National Parks and Wildlife, is

also a member of the Board by virtue of his position as Chairman of the Commission ofEcology and has attended Board meetings during 1975. Two additional members, representing the Latin American region, were recently appointed to the Board.

In addition to the elected Board, IUCN employs a Secretariat staff of about 30 persons. At present, the post of Director-General is vacant, with the Senior Ecologist, Dr Duncan Poore, Acting pro tern. Steps are currently being taken to recruit a new Director-General.

Answer to Question 1

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ATTACHM ENT 1 Agenda Paper EB. 7 5 /5 1

Executive Board

Subject: MEMBERSHIP OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD

Prepared by: Frank G. Nicholls September 1975

1. The following is the composition of the Executive Board as a result of elections at the 12th General Assembly, Zaire:

IN TER N A TIO N A L U N IO N FOR CONSERVATION OF NATURE A N D N A T U R A L RESOURCES

Voting Members President: Professor D. J. Kuenen

Vice Presidents: Professor A. G. Bannikov

Mr Eskandar Firouz Dr D. F. McMichael Dr Lee M. Talbot Dr David P. S. Wasawo

Members: Professor P. Aguesse

Dr E. O. A. Asibey Mr Robert E. Boote Mr William G. Conway Dr Martin H. Edwards Mr Y. Fukushima Professor Pierre Goeldlin Dr A. Inozemtsev Professor M. Kassas Dr Ashok Khosla Ing. E. Mondolfi Dr Muema Ngoy Toka Mr Andres Rozental Professor Otto Soemarwoto Lie. G. Stutzin

Commission on Ecology Chairman: Professor J. D. Ovington

Vice Chairman: Dr Arturo Gomez-Pompa

Commission on Education Chairman: Dr L. K. Shaposhnikov

Vice Chairmen: Mr Lars-Erik Esping

Dr M. Makagiansar

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Commission on Environmental Planning Chairman: Professor D. Ogrin

Vice Chairmen: Mr R. J. Benthem

Mr V. C. Robertson

Commission on Environmental Policy, Law and Administration Chairman: Professor Lynton K. Caldwell

Vice Chairmen: Mr B. N. Bogdanov

Mr W. E. Burhenne

Commission on National Parks and Protected Areas Acting Chairman: Mr Theodor R. Swem Vice Chairmen: Dr Marc J. Dourojeanni

Mr P. H. C. Lucas DrP.M .O lindo

Survival Service Commission Chairman: Sir Peter Scott

Vice Chairmen: Mr John Perry

Mr Μ. K. Ranjitsinh

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ATTACHM ENT 2

Membership of the IUCN includes several different classes of members. The attached papers indicate broadly the number of members in each class, together with recent additions. Membership dues are on a calendar year basis. It is therefore the case that, as at May 1976, numerous members, including Australia, have hot paid their dues for the current year. However, there is only a small number of members whose dues for 1975

are outstanding, and the Board has recently authorised action by the Secretariat to collect unpaid dues. Members whose dues are two years in arrears are liable to have their membership terminated. Action was recently taken by the Executive Board to terminate the membership of a number of non-Government organisations for this reason.

No State member has failed to pay dues for any political reason, although some smaller States have occasionally fallen behind in payment because of administrative or currency exchange problems.

Answer to Question by Senator Sibraa

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ATTACHMENT 2 Agenda PaperEB. 76/20

Executive Board

Subject: CURRENT MEMBERSHIP POSITION For: Information March 1976

Number o f members

March May

1976 1975

1. The membership of the Union is:

Governmental Members State Members .......................................................... 44 38

Agency Members— in member S t a t e s ....................................... 35

in non-member States ............................. 75 110 111

Non-Governmental Members National Organisational M e m b e r s ............................. 241 223

International Organisational Members ................... 21 18

Non-Voting Members Affiliate Members ..................................................... 14 24

Number o f countries r e p r e s e n te d ....................................... 100 96

Membership Fees 2. The situation on membership fees may be summarised as follows:

Arrears pre-1975 carried ( ’000 Swiss francs)

into 1975 1 975 1 976

INTERNATIO NAL U N IO N FOR CONSERVATION OF NATURE A N D NA TU R A L RESOURCES

due1 paid2 due' paid2 due

Governmental members .................................... 41 29 364 273 864

Non-governmental m e m b e r s ............................... 11 5 74 58 126

Affiliates and supporters ........................................... .. .. 27 25 20

52 34 465 356 1010

1 Situation as at 1.1.75 2 Situation as at 31.12.75

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ATTACHM ENT 2

Agenda Paper EB. 7 6 /40

Executive Board

Subject: MEMBERSHIP

For: Information; Approval (see para. 3) May 1976

1. The following States have become members of the Union since the 12th General Assembly (September 1975): Pakistan—December 1975 Mauritania—January 1976

Israel—February 1976 Iraq—April 1976 IUCN now has 45 State members and is represented through membership in 101 countries.

IN TER N A TIO N A L U N IO N FOR CONSERVATION OF NATURE A N D N A TU R A L RESOURCES

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DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS AND CONSUMER AFFAIRS

BUREAU OF CUSTOMS

Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

19 May 1976

Mr H. C. Nicholls Secretary Senate Estimates Committee B Parliament House

Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

Dear Mr Nicholls, Last evening during an examination of the additional estimates of expenditure of this Department, a member of the Committee asked for further details of staff wast­ age according to category of employment.

In the period 1 January to 30 April 1976, the following staff wastage has occurred in the Department.

Third Division Professional O f f ic e r s ............................. 5

Clerical Officers .................................. 129

S u b - T o t a l .................................. 134

Fourth Division Clerical Officers .................................. 76

Investigation Staff ............................. 1

Uniformed Staff .................................. 25

S u b - T o t a l .................................. 102

TOTAL ................................................ 236

It would be appreciated if these details could be brought to the attention of the Committee. .

If further particulars are required please let me know.

Yours sincerely,

F. I. KELLY Assistant Secretary (Management Services)

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE C

REPORT TO THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE C

REPORT TO THE SENATE

Estimates Committee C has the honour to report to the Senate.

1. On 28 April 1976, the Senate referred to the Committee the Additional Esti­ mates for the year 1975-76 relating to the following Departments:

Industry and Commerce Overseas Trade Treasury Primary Industry

2. The Committee has considered these Estimates and has received explanations of them from the Minister for Industry and Commerce and from officers of the Departments concerned. A copy of the Hansard report of the evidence is tabled for the information of the Senate in connection with the Appropriation Bill (No. 3)

1975-76 and the Appropriation Bill (No. 4) 1975-76

3. Subsequent to the hearing of evidence and in accordance with the undertak­ ings given during the hearing, additional information was forwarded to the Com­ mittee in reply to certain questions asked during the proceedings. Copies of these replies are attached as an Appendix to the Report.

4. The Committee records its appreciation of the evidence given by the Minister for Industry and Commerce, together with the officers of the various Departments whose Estimates the Committee considered.

C. R. MAUNSELL Chairman

20 May 1976

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Minutes of Proceedings

THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE C

MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS No. 1

THURSDAY, 20 MAY 1976

1. MEETING: The Committee met at 12.30 p.m.

2. APPOINTMENT OF, AND REFERENCE TO ESTIMATES COMMITTEES: The Resolution of the Senate of 28 April 1976 relating to the appointment of Esti­ mates Committees and the referral of additional estimates to them was reported.

3. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE: The entry of the Journals of the Senate of 29 April 1976 recording the appointment of the following members to Estimates Committee C was reported:

Senators Archer, Gietzelt, Maunsell, Messner, Primmer and Walsh.

4. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN: On the motion of Senator Archer, Senator Maunsell was elected Chairman.

Senator Maunsell thereupon took the Chair

5. PROCEDURE OF THE COMMITTEE: Discussion ensued on procedures to be followed by the Committee when considering Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for 1975-76.

6. STATEMENT BY CHAIRMAN: The Chairman made a statement relating to the procedure to be followed by the Committee and indicated that, pursuant to the Order of the Senate of 28 April 1976, the Committee would consider the following de­ partmental additional estimates: 7

Document* Page Division No. Department Amount

A 37 380-655 Industry and Commerce ........................

$

. . . 39 774 000

B 8 871 Industry and Commerce ........................ . . . 2 693 000

A 42 470-474 Overseas Trade ....................................... . . . 1 710 000

A 55-57 614-676 Treasury ..................................................... . . . 9 617 000

B 11 963-965 T r e a s u r y ..................................................... . . . 33 959000

A 44-45 145-152 Primary I n d u s t r y ....................................... . . . 2 360 000

B 9 818 Primary I n d u s t r y ....................................... . . . 9000

* Document B— ‘ Particulars of Certain Proposed Additional Expenditure in respect of the year ending on 30 June 1976’.

7. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY AND COMMERCE:

Appearing: Senator the Honourable R. C. Cotton, Minister for Industry and Com­ merce, accompanied by the following officers: Mr D. J. O ’Connor, Controller General (Management) Mr G. T. Collopy, Assistant Secretary ( Heavy Engineering and Metals)

Mr K. McKnown, Assistant Secretary ( Finance) Mr G. B. Davis, Director, Programmes and Estimates Department o f the Treasury: Mr C. T. Dolman, Senior Finance Officer

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The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 380-655—Department of Industry and Commerce (Document A) Division 871—Department of Industry and Commerce (Document B) The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expenditure for the Department of Industry and Commerce.

8. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF OVERSEAS TRADE:

Appearing: Senator the Honourable R. C. Cotton, Minister for Industry and Com­ merce, accompanied by the following officers:

Mr W. Ratcliff, Director, Finance and Services Mr D. Fitch, Assistant Secretary, Trade Services Division Mr F. Quinane, Acting First Assistant Secretary, Overseas Markets Division MrS. Ryan, Assistant Director, Finance and Accounts.

The Chairman called on the following Division for consideration:

Division 470-474—Department of Overseas Trade (Document A) The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expenditure for the Department of Overseas Trade.

9. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY: Appearing: Senator the Honourable R. C. Cotton, Minister for Industry and Commerce, accompanied by the following officers:

Department o f the Treasury:

Mr D. P. Reynolds, Acting Assistant Secretary Management Services Mr K. B. Moore, Finance Officer Mr E. W. Mathews, Chief Finance Officer, Revenue, Loans and Investment Division

Mr J. B. Ayres, Chief Finance Officer, Revenue, Loans and Investment Div­ ision Mr B. A. Seebach, Senior Finance Officer, Revenue, Loans and Investment Division Mr M. J. Roche, Director, Strategic Design Section, ADP Mr C. T. Dolman, Senior Finance Officer Australian Bureau of Statistics—

Mr P. G. Howell, Acting Assistant Statistician, Management Services Mr J. A. Butler, Director (Finance and General Services) Australian Taxation Office— Mr E. R. Marriot, Assistant Commissioner, Management Services

Mr D. N, Riley, Finance Officer Australian Government Retirement Benefits Office— Mr F. J. Maguire, Acting Director (Services) Mr R. Jackson, Finance Officer

Royal Australian Mint— Mr B. N. McLennan, Acting Controller The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration: Division 614-676—Department of the Treasury (Document A)

Division 963-965—Department of the Treasury (Document B) The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expenditure for the Department of the Treasury.

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10. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975­ 76-DEPARTM ENT OF PRIMARY INDUSTRY:

Appearing: Senator the Honourable R. C. Cotton, Minister for Industry and Com­ merce, accompanied by the following officers:

Industry No. 3 (Field Crops) Division— Mr A. W. Lloyd, First Assistant Secretary Mr A. J. Bennett, Assistant Secretary, General Crops and Inspection Services Branch Industry No. 4 (Horticultural Crops) Division—

Mr J. D. Walsh, Acting Assistant Secretary, Fruit, Wine and Inspection Ser­ vices Branch Industry No. 5 (Fisheries) Division— Mr E. A. Purnell-Webb, Assistant Secretary, Operations Branch

Mr P. C. Pownall, Editor ‘Australian Fisheries ’ Operations Branch Agriculture and Food Services Division— Mr G. M. Young, Principal Executive Officer, War Services Land Settlement Section, Grants Administration Branch

Bureau of Agricultural Economics— Mr N. D. Honan, Director Mr J. M. Powell, Principal Executive Officer Bureau of Animal Health—

Mr J. A. Hart, Senior Assistant Director Forestry and Timber Bureau— Mr A. G. Hanson, Senior Assistant Director Management Services Branch—

Mr D. P. Cleary, Acting Assistant Secretary Mr L. C. Elliott, Director of Finance Department o f the Treasury: Mr C. T. Dolman, Senior Finance Officer The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Division 145-152—Department of Primary Industry (Document A) Division 818—Department of Primary Industry (Document B) The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expenditure for the Department of Primary Industry.

11. DELIBERATIVE MEETING: The Committee met in deliberative session and considered the content of its report.

Resolved—That the Committee present a report to the Senate in accordance with that proposed by the Chairman, and that the Chairman confirm the Minutes of the present sitting.

12. ADJOURNMENT: The Committee adjourned at 2.55 p.m. The following members of the Committee were present:

Senators Archer, Gietzelt, Maunsell, Messner, Primmer and Walsh. (6) Senator Walters also took part in the Committee’s Proceedings.

C. R. MAUNSELL

Chairman

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Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

The Chairman Senate Estimates Committee C Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

Dear Sir DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY ADDITIONAL ESTIMATES 1975-76-COMMITTEE HEARINGS ON 20 MAY 1975

Arising out of consideration at the abovementioned hearings of Division No. 964 Appropriation Act No. 4 1 975-76 this Department undertook to provide the following additional information for your Committee: (a) details of the measures of assistance being financed out of payments to Tas­

mania under the Tasman Bridge disaster arrangements (Division 964 item 03); and (b) details of amounts being provided to Tasmania for investigations, studies and design works for the proposed second permanent bridge across the Der­

went River at Hobart. In relation to (a), background information on the Tasman Bridge disaster ar­ rangements is set out at pages 90 and 91 of the Budget white Paper Payments to or fo r the States and Local Government Authorities 1975-76. Copies of the relevant pages

are enclosed for convenience of reference. Particular measures eligible for assistance under the arrangements together with estimated expenditure by Tasmania on them in 1975-76 include: $m

- restoration and widening of Tasman Bridge .................................. 6.0

- the provision of temporary bridging across the Derwent . . . . 3.5

- additional Government services on the Eastern Shore of the D e r w e n t ............................................................................................ 0.8

- construction, upgrading and maintenance of specified roads . . 7.4 - the obtaining of ferries and development of associated facilities . 2.0 As to (b) above, in the 1975-76 Budget an amount of $0.9 million was appropriated against the Department of Transport for assistance to Tasmania for expenditures on

investigations, studies and design works for a permanent bridge across the Derwent at Dowsings Point in Hobart. It is presently estimated that payments out of this appro­ priation in 1975-76 will amount to $250 000 owing to the deferral until 1976-77 of certain consultant studies.

Yours faithfully, P. J. EMERY Assistant Secretary

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COMMISSIONER OF TAXATION

21 May 1976

The Chairman Senate Estimates Committee C Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

APPROPRIATION BILL (No. 4) 1975-76 DIVISION 963-1 -02-P L A N T AND EQUIPMENT, AUSTRALIAN TAXATION OFFICE

This advice is furnished in response to the request made by the Committee at its meeting on 20 May 1976 for further information to be supplied in relation to freight charges o f $47 630 included in the proposed additional appropriation of $72 700 under Division 963-1-02.

A total of 21 direct data entry systems, comprising mini computers and peripheral equipment such as keyboards and printers, has been installed in various offices of this organisation throughout the Commonwealth at a contracted cost of $3 132 795. All but a relatively small part of this expenditure was incurred in 1973-74 and 1974-75.

In April 1975, when the original estimate for 1975-76 was prepared, it was expected that the equipment on order would be installed and accepted and the accounts (including freight charges) paid before the end of the financial year 1974-75. Accordingly, no provision for freight charges in respect of that equipment was made in the original estimate for 1975-76.

In the event, a considerable number of accounts for the equipment and freight was received towards the end of the 1974-75 year. The freight accounts were, however, received too late for examination and payment before the closing date of 25 June 1975. Hence the need arose for the expenditure on freight to be provided in the Ad­ ditional Estimates 1975-76.

E. R. MARRIOTT Assistant Commissioner

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REPORT TO THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D

REPORT TO THE SENATE

Estimates Committee D has the honour to present its Report to the Senate.

1. On 28 April 1976 the Senate referred to the Committee the Additional Esti­ mates for the year 1975-76 relating to the following Departments:

Education Transport Postal and Telecommunications 2. The Committee has considered these Additional Estimates and has received explanations of them from the Minister for Education and officers of the Departments concerned. A copy of the Minutes of Proceedings and Hansard report of the evidence taken by the Committee are tabled for the information of the Senate in connection with the Appropriation Bill (No. 3) 1975-76 and the Appropriation Bill (No. 4) 1975-76. 1

3. The Committee records its appreciation of the assistance given by the Minister for Education and officers of the various Departments whose Additional Estimates the Committee considered.

K. J. MARTIN Chairman

20 May 1976

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D

MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS No. 1

THURSDAY, 20 MAY 1976

1. MEETING: The Committee met at 12.30 p.m.

2. APPOINTMENT OF AND REFERENCE TO ESTIMATES COMMITTEES: The Resolutions of the Senate of 28 April 1976 relating to the appointment of Esti­ mates Committees and the referral of additional estimates 1975-76 to the Committees for examination and report was reported to the Committee.

3. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE: The entry in the Journals of the Senate of 29 April 1976 recording the appointment of members to Estimates Committee D was reported as follows:

Senators Collard, Colston, Martin, Melzer, Townley and Wriedt.

4. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN: On the motion of Senator Townley, Senator Martin was elected Chairman.

Senator Martin thereupon took the Chair

5. STATEMENT OF CHAIRMAN: The Chairman made an introductory statement.

6. CONSIDERATION OF PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76: Pursuant to Order of the Senate the Committee commen­ ced consideration of the particulars of proposed additional expenditure for year 1975-76 relating to the following departmental estimates:

Departmental Estimates to be examined (Minister: Senator the Hon. J. L. Carrick)

Division

Document* Page No. Department Amount

$

A 25-28 270-280 Education ............................................................... 15 328 000

B 6 835-837 Education ............................................................... 71 000

A 54 655-662 Transport ................................................................ 28 157 000

B 11 957-958 Transport ................................................................ 8 700 000

A 43 412-496 Postal and T eleco m m u n icatio n s............................. 6 112 000

B 9 878-913 Postal and T elecom m unications.............................. 1 175 000 * 7

Document A— ‘Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for the Service of the year ending 30 June 1976’. Document B— ‘ Particulars of Certain Proposed Additional Expenditure in respect of the year ending on 30 June i 976

7. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- POSTAL AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT:

Appearing: Senator the Hon. J. L. Carrick, Minister for Education and Minister representing the Minister for Postal and Telecommunications, accompanied by the following officers:

Mr J. Wilkinson, First Assistant Secretary (Radio Frequency Management) Mr A. Westendorf, Executive Officer, Management Services Branch Mr Brian Foster, Senior Finance Officer, Finance and Supply Section

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Mr J. Venn, Controller of Finance, A.B.C. Mr B. Connolly, Secretary, A.B.C.B. Μ. T. Embrey, Manager, Management Accounting, Telecom Australia Mr J. Holt, General Manager (Finance), Australia Post Mr E. A. Ditchfield, General Manager (Marketing), Australia Post Mr J. C. Ramm, Manager (Delivery Services Branch), Australia Post Department o f the Treasury:

Mr F. V. Colvin, Acting Assistant Secretary, Accounting and Supply Division The Chairman called on Divisions 412-496 and 878-913, Postal and Telecom­ munications Department. The Minister made an introductory statement.

The following particulars of proposed additional expenditure were considered: Divisions 412-496, Postal and Telecommunications Department, $6 112 000 (Document A) Divisions 878-913, Postal and Telecommunications Department, $1 175 000 (Document B)

Consideration of the additional estimates for the Department completed, subject to an undertaking by the Minister to provide replies to several questions.

8. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORT:

Appearing: Senator the Hon. J. L. Carrick, Minister for Education and Minister representing the Minister for Transport, accompanied by the following officers:

Mr B. Lewis, First Assistant Secretary (Finance and Commercial) Mr G. T. O ’Halloran, Director (Budget) Mr S. P. Smith, Assistant Secretary (Shipping Systems) Mr D. Turner, Assistant Secretary (Rail) Mr P. Eccles, Assistant Secretary (Emergency and Special Services) Department o f the Treasury:

Mr F. V. Colvin, Acting Assistant Secretary, Accounting and Supply Division The Chairman called on Divisions 655-662 and 957-958, Department of Transport. The Minister made an introductory statement.

The following particulars of proposed additional expenditure were considered: Divisions 655-662, Department of Transport, $28 157 000 (Document A) Divisions 957-958, Department of Transport, $8 700 000 (Document B) Consideration of the additional estimates for the Department of Transport completed, subject to an undertaking by the Minister to provide replies to several questions.

9. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION: Appearing: Senator the Hon. J. L. Carrick, Minister for Education, accompanied by

the following officers: Mr R. A. Foskett, First Assistant Secretary, Territorial and Facilities Division Miss J. L. Miller, Assistant Secretary, Student Assistance No. 1 Branch Mr R. N. Allen, Assistant Secretary, Management Services Branch Mr B. J. Hutchinson, Director, Management Services Branch, A.C.T. Schools

Authority

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Mr S. G. Thompson, Assistant Secretary, Programs No. 2 Branch, Schools Commission Mr W. F. Koller, Director, Programs and Administration, Commission on Advanced Education

Mr R. M. Pratley, Assistant Secretary, Programs and Finance, Universities Commission Mr A. Aitken, Executive Officer, Commonwealth Teaching Service Department o f Treasury:

Mr F. V. Colvin, Acting Assistant Secretary, Accounting and Supply Division The Chairman called on Divisions 270-280 and 835-837, Department of Education. The Minister for Education made an introductory statement.

The following particulars of proposed additional expenditure were considered:

Divisions 270-280, Department of Education, $ 15 328 000 (Document A) Divisions 835-837, Department of Education, $71 000 (Document B) Consideration of the additional estimates for the Department of Education completed.

The Minister and Departmental Officers and members o f the Press and Public withdrew

10. DELIBERATIVE MEETING: The Committee met in deliberative session and considered the content of its report.

Resolved—That the Committee present a report to the Senate in accordance with that proposed by the Chairman, and that the Chairman confirm the Minutes of the present sitting.

11. ADJOURNMENT: The Committee adjourned at 3.24 p.m. The following members of the Committee were present: Senators Collard, Colston, Martin, Townley and Wriedt.

K. J. MARTIN Chairman

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REPORT TO THE SENATE

Estimates Committee E has the honour to present its report to the Senate.

2. On 28 April 1976 the Senate referred to the Committee the Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for the Service of the year ending on 30 June 1976, and the Particulars of Certain Proposed Additional Expenditure in respect of the year ending on 30 June 1976, relating to the following Departments:

Social Security Health Immigration and Ethnic Affairs Aboriginal Affairs

Repatriation.

3. The Committee has considered these estimates of expenditure and has received explanations of them from the Minister for Social Security and Officers of the Depart­ ments concerned. The Committee records its appreciation of the explanations of the estimates contained in the answers given before the Committee and in the explana­

tory memoranda prepared by the Departments and circulated to Senators prior to the sitting of the Committee.

4. The minutes of proceedings of the Committee are included in this Report and the Hansard report of the evidence given at the meeting of the Committee is pre­ sented herewith for the information of the Senate. 5. Written answers to questions received after the hearing of the Committee are

appended to this Report.

P. E. BAUME Chairman

18 May 1976

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE E MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS No. 1

TUESDAY, 18 MAY 1976

1. MEETING OF COMMITTEE: The Committee met in private session at 4.00 p.m. in the Senate Committee Room No. 5. The Secretary drew attention to the record, in the Journals of the Senate of 28 and 29 April 1976, of the reference of cer­ tain estimates of additional expenditure to the Committee, and the appointment of

members.

2. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN: On the motion of Senator Sheil, Senator Baume was elected Chairman, and took the Chair.

3. CHAIRMAN’S STATEMENT: The Committee then met in public session. The Chairman made a statement relating to the particulars of proposed expendi­ ture to be considered pursuant to the order of the Senate, viz:

Division

Document* * Page No. Department Amount

$

A 53 590 Social S e c u r i t y .......................................................... 20 861 000

B 10 939-940 Social S e c u r i t y ........................................................... 1 172 000

A 34-35 325-596 Health .................................................................... 7 021 000

B 7 854-939 Health .................................................................... 2 599 000

A 36 183-365 Immigration and Ethnic Affairs .............................. 7 692 000

A 7 120 Aboriginal A f f a i r s ...................................................... 999 000

B 4 813 Aboriginal A f f a i r s ...................................................... 16 000

A 49-50 525-527 Repatriation ........................................................... 17 142 000

* Document A—‘Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for the Service of the year ending 30 June 1976’. * Document B—‘Particulars of Certain Proposed Additional Expenditure in respect of the year ending on 30 June 1976 ’.

4. DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SECURITY

Appearing—Senator the Hon. M. G. C. Guilfoyle, Minister for Social Security, ac­ companied by the following departmental officers:

Department o f Social Security: Mr K. T. Kimball, First Assistant Director-General (Management) Mr W. G. Kiddle, Acting First Assistant Director-General (Social Welfare) Mr C. Calvert, Assistant Director-General (Finance)

Mr D. R. Scott, Assistant Director-General (Establishments and Personnel Projects) Mr K. C. Kern, Assistant Director-General (Project and Development) Mr A. M. Menere, Assistant Director-General (Rehabilitation Services)

Mr J. V. Crocker, Director (A.D.P. Planning and Services) Mr D. I. Stanton, Acting Director (Research) Mr H. G. Hutchison, Assistant Director (Budgeting and Financial Control) Department o f the Treasury:

Mr F. V. Colvin, Acting Assistant Secretary, Accounting and Supply Division

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The following particulars of proposed additional expenditure were called upon by the Chairman and considered: Document A Division 590 Administrative $20 861 000

Document B Division 939 Capital Works and Services $822 000 Division 940 Payments to or for the States $350 000 Consideration of these estimates concluded.

5. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH Appearing—Senator the Hon. M. G. C. Guilfoyle, Minister for Social Security, ac­ companied by the following departmental officers:

Department o f Health: Mr C. A. Nettle, Deputy Director-General Dr D. de Souza, Acting Deputy General Mr J. McCauley, Acting First Assistant Director-General (Health Services Div­ ision)

Mr W. D. Kelaher, Assistant Director-General (Acting) (Hospital Facilities Services Branch, Health Services Division) Dr W. A. Langsford, First Assistant Director-General ( Public Health Division) Mr L. B. Holgate, First Assistant Director-General (Medical Insurance Services Division) Mr L. W. Lane, First Assistant Director-General (Acting) (Management Ser­ vices Division) Mr R. H. Searle, First Assistant Director-General (Acting) (Quarantine Div­ ision)

Mr W. R. B. McLaughlin, Director, Development (Monitoring) Section (Medi­ cal Insurance Services Division) Mr A. E. Coates, Assistant Director-General (Acting) Hospital Insurance Branch (Hospital Insurance and Nursing Division) Mr R. W. Taylor, Senior Assistant General Manager (Management) (Health Insurance Commission) Department o f the Treasury:

Mr F. V. Colvin, Acting Assistant Secretary, Accounting and Supply Division The following particulars of proposed additional expenditure were called upon by the Chairman and considered:

Document A Division 325 Administrative $3 839 100 Division 329 Northern Territory Hospitals $334 000 Division 330 Northern Territory Health Services $519 900 Division 596 Health Insurance Commission $2 325 000

Document B Division 854 Payments to or for the States $2 354 000 Division 939 Capital Works and Services $245 000 Consideration of these estimates concluded.

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6. DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION AND ETHNIC AFFAIRS Appearing: Senator the Hon. M. G. C. Guilfoyle, Minister for Social Security, accompanied by the following departmental officers:

Department o f Immigration and Ethnic Affairs: Mr S. J. Dempsey, Deputy Secretary Mr A. W. Burt, Assistant Director ( Finance and General Services)

Department o f the Treasury: Mr F. V. Colvin, Acting Assistant Secretary, Accounting and Supply Division The following particulars of proposed additional expenditure were called upon by the Chairman and considered:

Document A Division 183 Office of the Commissioner for Community Relations $ 15 000 Division 360 Administrative $7 472 000 Division 365 Administrative $205 000 Consideration of these estimates concluded.

7. DEPARTMENT OF ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS Appearing: Senator the Hon. M. G. C. Guilfoyle, Minister for Social Security, accompanied by the following departmental officers:

Department o f Aboriginal Affairs: Mr I. A. J. Malone, First Assistant Secretary, Program Division Mr D. J. O ’Rourke, Assistant Secretary, Program Development Branch Mr R. Hogan, Acting Controller Finance Department o f the Treasury:

Mr F. V. Colvin, Acting Assistant Secretary, Accounting and Supply Division The following particulars of proposed additional expenditure were called upon by the Chairman and considered:

Document A Division 120 Administrative $999 000

Document B Division 813 Other Services $ 16 000

8. DEPARTMENT OF REPATRIATION Appearing: Senator the Hon. M. G. C. Guilfoyle, Minister for Social Security, accompanied by the following departmental officers:

Department o f Repatriation: Mr N. Trabinger, Acting First Assistant Commissioner, Management Services Dr J. H. Hurt, Chief Director, Medical Services Mr G. Felton, Assistant Commissioner, Benefits

Mr B. O ’Shannassy, Acting Assistant Commissioner, General Treatment Mr K. H. Ryan, Acting Director, Finance Mr F. Fletcher, Acting Assistant Director, Finance Department of the Treasury:

Mr F. V. Colvin, Acting Assistant Secretary, Accounting and Supply Division The following particulars of proposed additional expenditure were called upon by the Chairman and considered: 103

Document A Division 525 Administrative $3 063 000 Division 526 Repatriation Hospitals and other Institutions $8 939 000 Division 527 Other Repatriation Benefits $5 140 000 Consideration of these estimates concluded.

9. REPORT OF COMMITTEE The Committee then met in private session. The Chairman presented a draft report. On the motion of Senator Sheil, the draft report was adopted as the report of the Committee.

10. ADJOURNMENT: The Committee adjourned at 9.30 p.m.

11. ATTENDANCE: The following members of the Committee attended the meet­ ing: Senators Baume, Bonner, Grimes, Sheil and Wheeldon. Senator Melzer also attended.

P. E. BAUME Chairman

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MINISTER FOR SOCIAL SECURITY

Parliament House Canberrra, A.C.T. 2600

19 April 1976

Dear Senator Baume,

Yesterday, in Senate Estimates Committee E, when we were discussing the ad­ ditional estimates for the Department of Social Security, I was asked whether the Government had been invited to send a representative to the International Council on Social Welfare in Puerto Rico.

I recall having said that I was not aware of the invitation and that I have not had an invitation addressed to me. My investigation after the Committee meeting revealed that a copy of a general invitation by the President of the International Council on Social Welfare was forwarded to me with a covering note to me by the

President of the Australian Council of Social Service, Mr D. Scott. I have replied to Mr Scott, expressing my regret that I am unable to attend the conference due to the fact that I cannot be absent from Australia while Cabinet is con­ sidering Budget matters.

I would appreciate your bringing this matter to the notice of the Committee, and adding it to the information contained in the record of yesterday’s meeting.

Yours sincerely,

MARGARET GUILFOYLE

Senator P. E. Baume Chairman Senate Estimates Committee E Parliament House

Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

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M INISTER FOR SOCIAL SECURITY

Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

21 May 1976

Dear Senator Baume,

SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE E-D EPA RTM EN T OF SOCIAL SECURITY

You will recall that, at its hearing on Tuesday, 18 May 1976, on the 1975-76 Ad­ ditional Estimates of the Department of Social Security, your Committee sought ad­ ditional information on the following matters:

(i) Details of grants made under the Aged and Disabled Persons Homes Act and Aged Persons Hostels Act (ii) Departmental representation at the International Conference of Social Wel­ fare in Puerto Rico (iii) Details of the salary of Welfare Rights Officers employed by Darwin Disas­

ter Welfare Council (iv) The proportion of capital cost of the Department’s computer installation used for Medibank purposes.

Details in relation to these matters are on Statements A-D attached.

Yours sincerely,

MARGARET GUILFOYLE

Senator P. E. Baume Chairman Senate Estimates Committee E Parliament House Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

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STATEMENT A

SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE E -1 9 7 6

INFO RM ATIO N SOUGHT BY SENATOR MELZER

Department of Social Security—Div. 590.3.02 Information was sought as to the State breakup of grants to eligible organisations under the Aged and Disabled Persons Homes Act and the Aged Persons Hostels Act during 1975-76.

Response (i) Details of grants under Aged and Disabled Persons Homes Act are as fol­ lows:

New South Wales Victoria . .

Queensland .

South Australia Western Australia Tasmania . .

Total . .

$

. . 6 1 748 000

. . nil

. . 2 632 000

. . 9 2 997 000

. . 3 792 000

. . 1 82 000

. . 21 6 251 000

(ii) Details of grants under Aged Persons Hostels Act are as follows:

New South Wales .......................................................... nil

Victoria ....................................................................... 3

Queensland .................................................................. 3

South A u s t r a l i a ............................................................... nil

Western A u s t r a l i a .......................................................... nil

T a s m a n i a ......................................................................... nil

$

1 834 000 2 170 000

Total 6 4 004 000

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STATEM ENT B

SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE E -1 9 7 6

IN FO R M A TIO N SOUGHT BY SENATO R GRIMES

Department o f Social Security—Div. 590.3.19 Information was requested as to whether the Department was sending a represen­ tative to the International Conference on Social Welfare to be held in San Juan, Puerto Rico, during 18-24 July 1976.

Response As a result of the Government’s restraint on staffing and funds for travel, it is not possible for the Department to be represented at the Conference on Social Welfare arranged by the International Council on Social Welfare in San Juan, Puerto Rico, during July 1976.

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STATEMENT C

Department o f Social Security—Div. 590.5.01 Information was sought as to whether rate of pay of Welfare Rights Officer employed by the Darwin Disaster Welfare Council was comparable to the rates paid to Welfare Rights Officers elsewhere in Australia.

Response A grant of up to $10 000 was approved for payment to the Darwin Disaster Wel­ fare Council to enable it to employ a Welfare Rights Officer. Similar grants were made under another section of this Department’s Annual Appropriations to organis­

ations in New South Wales and Victoria to allow the employment of Welfare Rights Officers who are associated with disadvantaged groups within the community.

The apportionment of these grants between salary and administrative expendi­ ture is at the discretion of the organisation concerned as was the case with the Darwin Disaster Welfare Council.

It is understood that the Welfare Rights Officer engaged by the Darwin Disaster Welfare Council received an annual salary of $8500. This compares with an average annual salary of $7900 paid to Welfare Rights Officers by organisations in New South Wales and Victoria.

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SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE E -1 9 7 6

INFORM ATION SOUGHT BY SENATOR BAUME

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SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE E -1 9 7 6

INFO RM ATIO N SOUGHT BY SENATOR SHEIL

Department o f Social Security—Div. 939.2.01 Information was requested as to the proportion of capital cost of the Department’s computer installation used for Medibank purposes.

Response The apportionment of the capital cost of Medibank computing equipment is as follows:

Item Capital

Cost

Percentage Used by Medibank

Medibank Proportional Cost

$ % $

Dual 370/168 System, Canberra. 9 241 000 75 6 930 000

33 MDS Data Entry Systems. 1 320 000 100 1 320 000

650 Visual Display Units. 1 625 000 100 1 625 000

Honeywell Message Switching Units. 850 000 50 425 000

Total Value of Medibank Equipment 10 300 000

19 May 1976

AUSTRALIAN DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

Senator P. E. Baume Chairman Senate Estimates Committee E Parliament House

Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

During the course of the examination by Senate Estimates Committee E of the amounts included in Appropriation Bills numbers 3 and 4 for the Department of Health for 1975-76, members of the Committee asked a number of questions which required the provision of further information.

This information has now been prepared and is included in the attached statements. CHARLES NETTLE fo r Acting Director-General o f Health

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Senator Melzer asked, in relation to subsidies payable to non-government nursing staff employed at pastoral properties, . . on which pastoral properties this staff is, and what organisations pay their services?’

The organisations which pay for the services are the properties at which the nurs­ ing staff are employed.

A list of the properties currently eligible for subsidy is set out below:

Alexandria Station Alroy Downs Amaroo Station Bradshaw Station

Brunette Downs Hodgson Downs Lake Nash Mistake Creek Moroak Station Mount Denison Neutral Junction Victoria River Downs Waterloo Station Wave Hill Station

The payment of subsidies to pastoral management recognises that they are to an extent carrying out work which would otherwise be the responsibility of the Department.

Nursing sisters at pastoral properties are not always engaged full-time on nursing duties and the subsidy is assessed accordingly.

In the same theme of utilising existing resources to carry out community health activities, and under the same arrangements, considerably larger funds are also pro­ vided under Division 330.3.04 to missions—$668 000 in 1975-76.

The Chairman asked, in relation to the rates of salary of Northern Territory nurs­ ing staff, ‘How does it compare with the rates of salary paid in the two adjoining States—Western Australia and Queensland?’ He went on to ask, ‘Would it be possible to have made available to us information on the position say, in Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory?’

Below is set out a comparison of rates of salary of a Sister and a Senior Sister in the two States and the Territory, as at February 1976. This was the most recent date at which a meaningful comparison was possible.

Queensland Salary range

Western A ustralia Salary range Northern Territory Salary range

$ $ $

Sister ........................ . . . 7 514 -8 517 8 039- 9 161 6 988-8 219

Senior Sister . . . . . . 8 767-9 642 9 312-10 282 8740-9 423

The Chairman asked, in relation to the provision of funds under the Tuberculosis Act—reimbursement of Capital Expenditure by State Governments, ‘What is the cost per bed of that 10 bed ward on Thursday Island?’

The estimated capital cost for each bed in the 10 bed tuberculosis ward is $23 476.

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The total estimated cost of the New Ward Block of 42 beds at Thursday Island Hospital is— $ contract price o f building ....................................................................758 000

professional fees and f u r n is h in g s ..................................................... 228 000

986 000

The estimated amount to be reimbursed by the Commonwealth under the tuberculosis arrangements is 10/42 of $986 000 or $234 762.

Enquiries indicate that the cost per bed of a country hospital of approximately 50 beds could be up to $50 000 depending on the hospital infrastructure, facilities etc.

Senator Melzer asked, in relation to the provision of funds under the Tuberculosis Act—Reimbursement of Capital Expenditure by State Governments, ‘. . . was the Cairns hospital then redesigned or was the airconditioning just left out?’ Initially the Thoracic Annexe (three floors) to the Cairns Base Hospital was not

airconditioned. Subsequently the position on the ground floor of the annexe housing the Australian Department of Health pathology laboratory was airconditioned. This created a condensation problem on the ward floor above and this was overcome by the use of floor tiles. Later again the top floor of the annexe was taken over by the

pathology laboratory and was also airconditioned. A further condensation problem was created in the centre ward floor. Approval was sought and given for the centre floor to be airconditioned to overcome this problem and $40 000 was placed in the original estimates for this to be done.

A revised total estimate of $56 100 was included by the State in its original esti­ mates for 1975-76, although the figure approved by the Commonwealth remained at $40 000.

When submitting its revised tuberculosis capital expenditure estimates for 1975-76 on 23 December 1975 the Queensland Health Department advised the following: Airconditiomng of 1st floor of Cairns Thoracic Annexe. The Board is now seeking approval to air con­

dition a section of the ground floor as well as all of the 1st floor to prevent condensation problems be­ tween these floors. The revised estimate of cost for all of this work is $121 000 (including fees). The Board anticipates that the full amount of $121 000 will be claimed in 1976-77.

The project was therefore removed from the 1975-76 estimates. No request has been made by the State Department in its draft estimates for 1976-77 to cover reim­ bursement of expenditure in respect of this project. This will be followed up.

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE F

REPORT TO THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE F REPORT TO THE SENATE

1. On 5 May, 20 May and 25 May 1976, Committee F considered the Estimates of proposed supplementary expenditure for:.

Department of Science Department of the Northern Territory Department of Construction Department of the Capital Territory.

2. The Committee has received the answers and information requested by it and recommends the approval of Estimates for:

the Department of Science, the Department of the Northern Territory, and the Department of Construction.

3. The Committee refers specially for the consideration of the Senate the following items in the Estimates of the Department of the Capital Territory:

(a) Division 210/3/25—Australia 75 Festival This Festival incurred a loss which (in addition to Government subsidies already made)— $

Department of the Capital T e r r i t o r y ................................. 145 000

Schools Commission ......................................................... 25 000

A.C. A. Grants ................................................................... 76710

Women’s International Year Secretariat ........................ 10 885

T o t a l ............................................................................ 288 595

requires an appropriation of $31 000 to cover the full expenditure. (b) City Omnibus Service (Division 210/3/10) Transport Trust Account Capital Advance (Division 829/5/05) (i) the Government subsidy increased from $1 859 903 (1973-74) to

$3 617 517 in 1974-75; (ii) the number of vehicles in the omnibus service increased from 200 in 1973 to 347 in 1976; (iii) the self-drive vehicle fleet has risen from 1510 in 1973 to the present

level of 2009; (iv) the alarming fact that timetables proposed to ensure economies in the bus service were not able to be implemented because o f ‘union inter­ ference’ and resulted in a loss of savings of $600 000 in a full year.

4. The Committee records its appreciation of the assistance given by the Minister for Science, and the officers of the various Departments whose Additional Estimates the Committee considered.

R.C. WRIGHT Chairman

25 May 1976

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Minutes of Proceedings

THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE F

MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS No. 1

WEDNESDAY, 5 MAY 1976

1. PRIVATE MEETING: The Committee met at 9 a.m.

2. APPOINTMENT OF, REFERENCE TO AND MEMBERSHIP OF EST­ IMATES COMMITTEES: The Resolutions of the Senate of 28 and 29 April 1976 relating to the appointment of Estimates Committees, referral of the Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure 1975-76 to the Committees for examination and

report, and the membership of the Committee, were reported to the Committee.

3. ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN: On the motion of Senator Thomas, Senator Wright was elected Chairman of the Committee.

4. APPOINTMENT OF DEPUTY-CHAIRMAN: The Chairman informed the Committee that, pursuant to paragraph (6) of the Resolution of the Senate of 28 April 1976, appointing Estimates Committees, he had appointed Senator Kilgariff to be Deputy-Chairman of the Committee.

5. ORDER OF CONSIDERATION OF PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76: O rdered-That, unless otherwise ordered, the Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure 1975-76 be considered in the following order: Department of the Northern Territory, Department of Sci­

ence, Department of Construction and Department of the Capital Territory.

6. PUBLIC MEETING: The Chairman made a statement relating to the procedure to be followed by the Committee in its examination of the Particulars of Proposed Ad­ ditional Expenditure for the Service of the year ending 30 June 1976. Pursuant to the Resolution of the Senate of 28 April 1976, the Committee would consider the follow­

ing departmental Additional Estimates.

Division

Document* * Page No. Department Amount

$

A 51-52 437-554 Science .................................................................... 5 648 000

B 10 927 Science .................................................................... 690 000

A 40-41 455-459 Northern Territory ................................................. 8 858 000

B 8-9 897-899 Northern Territory ................................................. 18 324000

A 20-21 345-352 Construction ........................................................... 14 372 000

B 5-6 860 Construction ........................................................... 12 839 000

A 18-19 210-688 Capital Territory ...................................................... 5 914000

B 5 829-975 Capital Territory ..................................................... 2 1 472 000

* Document A— ‘Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure for the Service of the year ending 30 June 1976’.

* Document B— 1 Particulars of Certain Proposed Additional Expenditure in respect of the year ending on 30 June 1976’.

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7. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF THE NORTHERN TERRITORY Appearing: Senator the Honourable J. J. Webster, Minister for Science, accompanied by the following officers:

Mr E. F. Dwyer, Deputy-Secretary Mr N. Lynagh, Acting First Assistant Secretary, Management, Legislation and Planning Division Mr A. D. Jones, General Manager, Darwin Reconstruction Commission Mr J. G. O ’Reilly, Acting Chief Business Manager, Darwin Reconstruction

Commission Treasury Representative: Mr R. K. Caldwell, Senior Finance Officer.

The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 455-459—Department of the Northern Terri toty (Document A) Divisions 897-899—Department of the Northern Territory (Document B) Senator Webster made a statement relating to the Additional Estimates for the Department of the Northern Territory. The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed expenditure for the Department of the Northern Territory.

8. ADJOURNMENT: The Committee adjourned at 10.51 a.m. until a day and hour to be fixed.

9. ATTENDANCE: The following members of the Committee were present: Sena­ tor Wright (Chairman), and Senators Devitt, Kilgariff, Robertson, Ryan and Thomas (6). Senator McLaren also took part in the Committee’s proceedings.

R. C. WRIGHT Chairman

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THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE F MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS No. 2

THURSDAY, 20 MAY 1976

1. MEETING: The Committee met at 12.30 p.m. The Chairman (Senator Wright) took the Chair.

2. ORDER OF CONSIDERATION OF PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED AD­ DITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76: Ordered— That the Particulars of Proposed Additional Expenditure 1975-76 be considered in the following order: Department of Construction, Department of Science, and Department of the Capital Territory.

3. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION: Appearing: Senator the Honourable J. J. Webster, Minister for Science, accompanied by the following officers:

Mr G. Warwick Smith, Secretary Mr K. J. Rodda, Deputy Secretary Mr A. G. Miles, Assistant Secretary (Works) Mr W. D. Hamilton, Assistant Secretary (Finance) Treasury Representative:

Mr R. K. Caldwell, Senior Finance Officer The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 345-352—Department of Construction (Document A) Division 860—Department of Construction (Document B) The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expenditure for the Department of Construction, subject to the provisions of an answer to a ques­ tion asked by Senator McLaren, viz.: if any work was currently being carried out at Government House, Canberra. An answer was subsequently provided during the Committee hearing.

4. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF SCIENCE:

Appearing: Senator the Honourable J. J. Webster, Minister for Science, accompanied by the following officers:

Department o f Science:

Mr R. Goleby, Assistant Secretary (Grants and Projects Branch) Mr C. A. Webster, Assistant Secretary (Management Services Branch) Mr K. Walshe, Executive Officer (Finance), Bureau of Meteorology Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization:

MrS. Lattimore, Acting Secretary (Research) Mr R. W. Viney, Senior Assistant Secretary (Finance and Properties) Mr K. L. Avent, Assistant Secretary (Research) Dr J. R. Yates, Assistant Secretary (Research)

Mr I. C. Bogg, Chief Finance Officer Mr H. Kwong, Senior Finance Officer

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Treasury Representative:

Mr R. K. Caldwell, Senior Finance Officer The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 437-554—Department ofScience (Document A) Division 927—Department ofScience (Document B) Ordered—That after the consideration of Division 437, Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization, intervening Divisions be postponed until after the consideration of Division 554, Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization. Senator Webster made a statement relating to the scrutiny of financial expenditure by Estimates Committees since their establishment. The Committee agreed to the incorporation in the Hansard report of proceedings of a further state­ ment by Senator Webster concerning the Additional Estimates for the Department of Science and the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization. The Committee thereupon considered and concluded its consideration of:

Divisions 437 and 554—Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization.

The Committee then considered and concluded its consideration of the following postponed Divisions contained in Document A:

Document A: Division 540— Administrative Division 542—Analytical Services Division 543—Antarctic Division Division 544—Commonwealth Bureau of Meteorology Division 545—Ionospheric Prediction Service Division 546—Metric Conversion Board Division 547—National Standards Commission Document B:

Division 927—Capital Works and Services.

The Committee considered and concluded consideration of Division 927. The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed additional expendi­ ture for the Department ofScience.

5. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975-76- DEPARTMENT OF THE CAPITAL TERRITORY:

Appearing: Senator the Honourable J. J. Webster, Minister for Science, accompanied by the following officers:

Department of the Capital Territory:

MrD. M. Lalor, Assistant Secretary (Finance and Supply) Mr C. H. C. Davis, First Assistant Secretary (Housing and Welfare) Mr J. H. Marshall, First Assistant Secretary (Transport and Traffic Special Group)

Mr J. C. Johnson, Superintendent (Police Management Services Division) Mr C. S. Hamilton, Director (Programs and Budgets) Mr H. Gamier, Director (Organisation, Classification and Methods) Mr D. A. Brown, Director (Personnel and Services) Miss L. Webb, Executive Officer (Transport)

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National Capital Development Commission:

Mr K. A. Myers, Secretary/Manager Mr K. J. Curtis, Senior Assistant Secretary

Treasury Representative:

Mr R. K. Caldwell, Senior Finance Officer

The Chairman called on the following Divisions for consideration:

Divisions 210-688—Department of the Capital Territory (Document A) Divisions 829-975—Department of the Capital Territory (Document B)

Document A: The Committee concluded its consideration of the following:

Division 210—Administrative

1. Salaries and Payments in the nature of Salary— 01. Salaries and allowances

2. Administrative Expenses— 02. Office requisites and equipment, stationery and printing 03. Postage, telegrams and telephone services 04. Astralian Government Motor Vehicle Registry—Operational expenses

09. Incidental and other expenditure.

3. Other Services— 02. Bushfire prevention 03. Government dwellings—Servicing and caretaking 06. Social welfare

10. City Omnibus Service—Loss on operations (for payment to the Australian Capital Territory Transport Trust Account) 12. Weights and Measures Ordinance—Administration 13. Goodwin Homes for the Aged—Subsidy

14. Stream and sewer gauging and testing 15. Lake Burley Griffin—Operation and maintenance 20. Botanic Gardens 24. Incidental and other expenditure Sub-division 3, Item 25, Australia 75 Festival $31 000 being considered by the Committee.

Ordered—That further consideration of Item 25, (Australia 75 Festival), be postponed.

The Committee then considered and concluded its consideration of the following:

Division 2 /3 —Australian Capital Territory Police

1. Salaries and Payments in the nature o f Salary— 01. Salaries and allowances 02. Overtime

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2 4 5 7 0 / 7 6 - 5

2. Administrative Expenses— 01. Travelling and subsistence 02. Office requisites and equipment, stationery and printing 03. Postage, telegrams and telephone services 04. Office services 05. Motor vehicles and launches—Hire, maintenance and running expenses 06. Clothing and equipment 07. Superannuation pensions 08. Incidental and other expenditure

Division 688—National Capital Development Commission 01. For expenditure under the National Capital Development Commission Act—Administration

Document B:

The Committee considered and concluded its consideration of the following sub­ divisions and items contained in Division 829, Capital Works and Services:

4. Plant and Equipment 03. Australian Capital Territory—Police 5. Advances and Loans 01. Loans for housing (for payment to the Australian Capital Territory Hous­

ing Trust Account).

Sub-division 5, Item 05, Working Capital Advance (for payment to the Australian Capital Territory Transport Trust Account), $875 000, being considered by the Committee.

Ordered—That further consideration of Item 05, (Working Capital Advance (for pay­ ment to the Australian Capital Territory Transport Account)), be postponed. The Committee then considered and concluded its consideration of Item 06, Working Capital Advance (for payment to the Cafeteria (Australian Capital Territory Police) Trust Account) contained in sub-division 5, Advances and Loans of Division 829. Division 975, Capital Works and Services, sub-division 1, for expenditure under the National Capital Development Commission $17 500 000, being considered by the Committee.

Ordered—That further consideration of Division 975 be postponed.

The Minister, officers, members of the press and public withdrew.

6. DELIBERATIVE MEETING: The Committee met in private session to consider when it would next meet.

Ordered—That the Committee next meet at 9.00 a.m., Tuesday, 25 May 1976.

7. ADJOURNMENT: The Committee adjourned at 5.55 p.m., until Tuesday, 25 May 1976, at 9.00 a.m.

8. ATTENDANCE: The following members of the Committee were present: Sena­ tor Wright (Chairman), and Senators Kilgariff, Robertson, Ryan and Thomas. Sena­ tor McLaren also took part in the Committee’s proceedings.

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R. C. WRIGHT Chairman

THE SENATE

ESTIMATES COMMITTEE F

MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS No. 3

TUESDAY, 25 MAY 1976

1. MEETING: The Committee met at 9.17 a.m. The Chairman, (Senator Wright) took the Chair.

2. PARTICULARS OF PROPOSED ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE 1975­ 76-DEPARTM ENT OF THE CAPITAL TERRITORY RESUMED Appearing: Senator the Honourable J. J. Webster, Minister for Science, accompanied by the following officers:

Department o f the Capital Territory Representatives Mr D. M. Lalor, Assistant Secretary (Finance and Supply), Mr G. S. Hamilton, Director (Programs and Budgets), Mr W. E. Lawrence, Assistant Secretary (Urban Affairs),.

Mr L. L. Gillespie, Assistant Secretary (Housing and Welfare Policy), Mr F. Daly, Acting Director (Loans and Finance), Mr B. Darke, Assistant Secretary (Transport), and Miss L. M. Webb, Executive Officer (Transport Branch).

Treasury Representative Mr R. K. Caldwell, Senior Finance Officer

The Committee further considered and concluded its consideration of Division 210/3/25—Australia 75 Festival; Division 860/5/05—Working Capital Ad­ vance (for payment to the Australian Capital Territory Transport Trust Account); and Division 975/1—For expenditure under the National Capital

Development Commission Act.

The Committee concluded its consideration of the proposed expenditure for the Department of the Capital Territory.

3. MINUTES: The Minutes of the meetings held on 5 May and 20 May 1976, were read and confirmed.

4. REPORT OF COMMITTEE: The Committee deliberated upon its Report to the Senate. The Chairman stated that a draft Report as agreed upon would be circulated to Senators for consideration and approval before presentation.

5. ADJOURNMENT: The Committee adjourned at 10.50 a.m.

6. ATTENDANCE: The following members of the Committee were present: Sena­ tor Wright (Chairman), Senators Kilgariff and Thomas. Senator McLaren also took part in the Committee’s proceedings.

R. C. WRIGHT Chairman

25 May 1976

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Appendix

DEPARTMENT OF THE NORTHERN TERRITORY

P.O.Box 231 Darwin N.T. 5794

12 May 1976

Senator R. C. Wright Chairman Senate Estimates Committee F Parliament House

Canberra, A.C.T. 2600

At the Senate Estimates Committee hearings on 5 May 1976, Senator Kilgariff asked the following question: Having in mind once again the McKinna report relating to the requirements for the Northern Territory Police Force and having in mind the criticism that has been made by the public over the last year or two

about the different types of pistols or hand guns that the police in the Northern Territory are carrying, I ask: What is the present situation in relation to the issuing of the new Smith Special which I understand is to be the standard pistol for the Northern Territory?

In reply I indicated that I was not sure of the exact position and you requested that I should give an answer in writing as soon as I was able to ascertain the position. The answer which I now wish to supply is as follows:

A policy decision was made some years ago but a staged program has been under­ taken for the replacement of existing weapons with standard type revolvers for issue to the Northern Territory Police. It was decided to standardise on the Smith and Wes­ son Special with 2 and 4 inch barrels.

In 1973-74, a total of 85 revolvers were ordered of which 75 have been delivered and issued to members of the Force. In 1974-75 a further 75 revolvers were ordered and deliveries of these are expected within the next two to three months.

A further 75 revolvers were listed for purchase in the financial year 1975-76 but due to the change of Department and the restrictions pl aced on further financial com­ mitments, these have not yet been ordered.

The present draft program for 1976-77 proposes the purchase of 150 revolvers which will enable all members of the Force who require to be armed to be issued with standard revolvers.

E. F. DWYER Deputy Secretary

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DEPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION

SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE F

ADDITIONAL ESTIMATES 1975-76

GOVERNMENT HOUSE CANBERRA

In response to a question by Senator McLaren the Department undertook to furnish information relating to any work currently being carried out at Government House, Canberra. Work is being carried out at Government House, Canberra by the Department of Construction on behalf of the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet. It is being funded by that Department and not from any appropriation under the control of the Department of Construction.

The work is being executed by day labour.

May 20, 1976

SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE F

ADDITIONAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED AT THE HEARING ON 20 MAY 1976

DEPARTMENT OF THE CAPITAL TERRITORY

DIVISION 2 1 0 /3 /0 3 —GOVERNMENT DWELLINGS-SERVICING AND CARETAKING

CHAIRMAN

Hansard Reference—Page 157

Question (a) What has been the growth over the last three years in this item? (b) What was the expenditure in 1971-72?

Answer

(a) 1975-76 1974-75 1973-74 1972-73 (b) 1971-72

$

984 000 (estimated) 841 637 632 617 517 527 532 049

Note: Prior to 1975-76 the expenditure on ground maintenance of Government flats was shown in another appropriation heading and the figures shown above have been amended to show a true comparison.

SENATOR RYAN

Hansard Reference—Pages 157-158

Question To what extent has the change in policy which prevented people from buying Government houses contributed to the increase in expenditure in this item?

Answer The sale of Government rental houses was suspended on 7 July 1972 pending a review of sales policy. In January 1973 sales on a limited basis were resumed. Generally only those persons who were already Government tenants before sales

were suspended in July 1972, or who had registered for housing by that date, were permitted to purchase. The effect of this policy has been that persons who were allocated their Government rented housed after May 1975 are not eligible to pur­ chase. Therefore expenditure would not have been affected until financial year

1975-76.

It is difficult to evaluate accurately the effect this policy has had on the expenditure under Division 210/3/03 but it is estimated that it would be minimal as only approximately 1400 tenants are not eligible to purchase the rented houses they occupy. The increase in the expenditure under this item is therefore due in the

main to rising costs and the acquisition of additional dwelling units.

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The following schedule show the stock of rental dwelling units at the close of each financial year since June 1972 after allowing for acquisitions and sales:

Year

Stock as at Commencement o f year Acquisitions Sales

Stock as at close o f year

1 9 7 2 10 6 9 1 8 2 0 1 3 8 0 10 131

1 9 7 3 10 131 9 6 5 1 2 9 3 9 8 0 3

1 9 7 4 9 8 0 3 8 1 6 9 3 1 9 6 8 8

1 9 7 5 9 6 8 8 1 6 4 5 6 4 5 10 6 8 8

3 0 .4 .7 6 10 6 8 8 9 3 5 5 1 8 11 105

DIVISION 210/3/10-C IT Y OMNIBUS SERVICE-LOSS ON OPERATIONS (FOR PAYMENT TO THE A.C.T. TRANSPORT TRUST ACCOUNT)

CHAIRMAN

Hansard Reference—Page 162

Question Could we have a copy of the last profit and loss account?

Answer Attached is a copy of the Profit and Loss Statement and the Statement of Assets and Liabilities for the year ended 8 June 1975.

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A.C.T. Transport Trust Account

Profit and Loss Statement for the Year ended 8 June 1975

1974-75 1973-74

$ $ $ $

Operating income Omnibus Service Earnings 1 839744 1 808 943

Omnibus Service Subsidy . . (note 1) 3 617 517 1 859 903

Ministerial and Passenger 1 922 559 1 374 658

Special Duty 1 485 343 1 219 778

Goods Fleet 829 577 111 670

Taxi—Administrative Oncost 24 684 22 220

Total Operating Income 9 719 424 7 008 172

Operating Expenses Working Expenses . . . . (note 2) 9 114 907 6 556 655

Administrative Expenses . . (note 3) 739 924 548 165

Total Operating Expenses 9 854 831 7 104 820

Net Operating Profit (or loss) (note 4) (135 407) (96 648)

Extraordinary Items (net) . (note 5) 153 528

Net Profit (or Loss) for the year (135 253) (96 120)

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A.C.T. Transport Trust Account Notes to the Profit and Loss Statement

The following notes form part of the accounts and should be read in conjunction therewith:

1974-75 1 973-74

NOTE 1-OMNIBUS SUBSIDY Subsidy R e q u i r e d ........................

Subsidy R e c e i v e d ........................

Surplus (Deficiency) carried forward

Omnibus

Ministerial and

passenger

2 448 480 939 411

61 852 231 942

6 770 839

163 921 75 433

7 666 3 395 110 727

2 084

54 723 319 045 110 969

86 923 28 401

40 831 15413

82 752 26 900

139 292 1 523

11 407 1 918

106 572 38 367

65 540 10 184

11 637 905

96 945 30 778

18 551 9 036

21 820 7 201

18 523

5 752

1 035 648 61 503

1 598 1 050

2 935 1 391

Special duty

15 463

1 006

194 803 76 301 8 226

3 046 3 788

484 564 12 114 813

3 617 517 1 859 903

3 898 600 1 850 660

281 083 (9 243)

Goods Total Total

fleet 1974-75 1 973-74

464 538 10 250

12 796

8 850

52 424 15 745 8 372 1 631

119

20 499 10019 1 475

1 999 3 283

124 377 474 533

3 852 430 319 507 7 609 252 150

7 666 114 122 10 934 54 723 482 438

131 069 65 622 111 283 140 815

13 444 360 241 162 044 22 243

127 723 32 632 36 092 18 523

5 752

1 706 052 15 236 5 672

2 893 975 217 377 16 113 183 390

2 288 92 633 11 636 35 239 333 263

110218 17 783 92 523 132 052

8 903 296 825 112 158 15 388

106 581 23 884 22 523 10 580

4 683 948 726 14 457 5 194

Depreciation of Vehicles . . .

^ Other Working Expenses . . .

1j F ix e d O v e rh e a dCommon Service Wages . . .Electricity ..................................Heating Oil ..................................Accident & Compensation—PaymentsWatchmans S e r v i c e s ...................V a ria b le O v e rh e a dA d v e r ti s in g ..................................Travelling Expenses ...................Miscellaneous .............................Stocktaking Adjustments . . .

157 089 63 616

2 563 285

4 966 478 1 775 628

13 205 8 484

10 158 6 357

753 357

35 800 13 100

5 599 3 486

8 905 1 023 232

36 273 9 154Cr

45 29

5 078 239 1 798 519

NOTE 3—ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES i— Salaries ......................................................

so Printing and S t a t i o n e r y .............................

T e l e p h o n e s .................................................

Legal Claims ............................................

Unrecovered Accident Costs ....................

348 835 154 887

10 772 4 453

8 541 10 106

10 874 6 337

379 022 175 7S3

436 363 46 860 703 928

1 866 2 4 716

1 238 353 784 206 8 764 666

161 671 10417 193 777

4 305 3 198 24018

208 137 1 455

6 700 55 600

2 352 1 747 13 184

8 905

1 169 69 2 493

18 461 4 784 50 364

358 14 445

1 426 877 811 272 9 114 907

93 530 65 707 662 959

10 634 756 26 615

7 222 4 800 30 669

543 1 927 19 681

111 929 73 190 739 924

53 463 54 885 135 406

NOTE 5-EXTRAORDINARY ITEMS Adjustment of Revaluation of Motor Stock .................................................................... .............................................................................. 153Cr

153Cr

633281 5 051

6 346 728

136 798 16915 1 249 15 120

3 337

3 235 738

32 505 30

6 556 655

462 736 24 252 17 172 24 005 20 000

548 165

96 648

528Cr

528Cr

A.C.T. Transport Trust Account

Statement of Assets and Liabilities as at 8 June 1975

1974-75 1973-74

AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT FUNDS Working C a p i t a l ............................................................... 1 000 000

Working Advances—Change Float ............................. 5 000 5 000

Amounts Retained from Operations . . . (Note 1) 1 196 292 1 270 365

Net Fixed Asset A d v a n c e ............................. (Note 2) 13 003 282 . 8 740 251

Total Advances ...................

Net Profit (or Loss) for the Year

15 204 574 (135 253)

10015 616 (96 120)

A U ST R A L IA N G O V E R N M E N T FU N D S I N V E S T E D .......................................................... 15 069 321

These funds are represented by: CURRENT ASSETS Working Capital Advance ............................................

Cash on Hand and in Trust Account .............................

Cash Advance—Change Float .......................................

Accounts Receivable ......................................................

Omnibus Subsidy carried f o r w a r d ..................................

S t o c k ............................................................... (Note 3)

1 000 000 161 288 5 000 1 422 427

272 122

469 134 5 000 916 689 58015

146 892

TOTAL CURRENT A S S E T S .................................. 2 860 837 1 595 730

DEDUCT CURRENT LIABILITIES Accounts Payable and Accrued Expenses .................... 402 669 345 718

Provisions ......................................................(Note 4) 168 761 70 767

Omnibus Subsidy carried f o r w a r d .................................. 223 368

9 919 496

T O T A L C U R R E N T L IA B IL IT IE S 7 9 4 796 4 1 6 485

WORKING CAPITAL .......................................

FIXED ASSETS ............................................ (Note 5)

Buildings .........................................................................

Plant and Machinery ......................................................

Less-Provision for Depreciation ..................................

2 066 041

2 933 935

195 640 93 924 101 716

182 892 78 689

Furniture and Equipment . . Less—Provision for Depreciation

193551 52 714 140 837

150 540 45 064

Loose Plant and Tools . . .

Less—Provision for Depreciation

58 500 6 326 52 174

44 186 6 503

V e h ic le s ..................................

Less—Provision for Depreciation

12 462 773 2 688 155 9 774618

8 340 192 2303 136

2 455 833

104 203

105 476

37 683

6 037 056

1 179 245

TOTAL FIXED ASSETS 13 003 280 8 740 251

TOTAL NET ASSETS 15 069 321 9 919 496

A.C.T. Transport Trust Account

Notes to the Statement of Assets and Liabilities

The following notes form part of the accounts and should be read in conjunction therewith:

1974-75 1 973-74

NOTE 1-AM OUNTS RETAINED FROM OPERATIONS Depreciation ....................................................................

Proceeds from Sale of Vehicles .......................................

Proceeds from Sale of Miscellaneous Stock ...................

Surplus from Previous Y e a r s ............................................

724 835 652 931

399 304 535 084

441

72 153 81909

1 196 292 1 270 365

Amount Amount

Outstanding Advance Amount Outstanding

9 June 1974 1974-75 Repayable 8 June 1975

2 455 833 104 203 105 476 37 683 6 037 056

478 102 12 749 43 012 14 647 4 703 491

2 933 935

15 236 101 716

7 651 140 837

156 52 174

965 929 9 774 618

8 740 251 5 252 001 988 972 13 003 280

1974-75 1973-74

NOTE 3-STOCK Spare Parts (Valued at most recent purchase price) . . . Petrol, Oil and Distillate (Valued at most recent purchase price) ...................................................................................

NOTE 4-PROVISIONS Recreations Leave ........................

Furlough .......................................

Sick L e a v e .......................................

Accident and Compensation Payments Uniforms and C l o t h i n g ...................

Legal Claims ..................................

NOTE 5—FIXED ASSETS All fixed assets are valued at cost.

240 722 140 256

31 400 6 636

272 122 146 892

36 779 39318

38 086 (3 503)

10 887 10 157

(6 322) (20 659)

60 044 14 858

29 287 30 596

168 761Cr 70 767Cr

DIVISION 2 1 0 /3 /13-GOODWIN HOMES FOR THE AGED-SUBSIDY

CHAIRMAN

Hansard Reference—Page 162

Question I want to know what arrangement is made to ensure that public money through a subsidy of this nature goes only to the needy.

Answer Goodwin Homes for the Aged Inc. has as its basic objective the care and the housing of the aged in the A.C.T.

The organisation operates the Goodwin Centre at Ainslie which provides hos­ tel accommodation for 68 persons and self-contained accommodation for 62 persons. The hostel was constructed by the Commonwealth Government and the self-contained units by the association with grants under the Aged Persons Homes Act. The whole complex is administered by the association.

Persons admitted to the Centre must be: (i) persons who have attained sixty years (females) or sixty-five years (males); (ii) persons who comply with the means test, where appropriate, governing

the payment of age pension; (iii) persons who have been resident in the Territory within recent times for a period of not less than two years; (iv) persons who are in reasonable health.

The criteria for determining priority of admission is need. Goodwin Homes for the Aged Inc. is financed by: (i) the payment of rents and board by residents of the hostel and self- contained units;

(ii) public donation; (iii) deficit funding by the Department of the Capital Territory in respect of the hostel; (iv) a grant in 1976 of $7000 from T.A.B. disbursements towards the main­

tenance of the self-contained units.

Rent for the self-contained units is $5.50 per week and board for the hostel is $31.25 per week. A small number of people who contributed one-third of the capi­ tal cost of a self-contained unit do not pay rent. There is not and never has been an owner-donor system.

DIVISION 210/3/25— AUSTRALIA ’75 FESTIVAL

C h a i r m a n

Hansard Reference—Page 164

Question

Could we be supplied with full particulars of the expenditure, both from private sources and otherwise, so that we will know who are to be paid, and what for, out of this $31 000?

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Answer The financial statements showing the operations of the Board of Governors of ‘Australia ’75’ are:

PROGRAMMES S c ie n c e ...............................................................

National Youth Drama C a m p ........................

Children ..........................................................

Craft ...............................................................

Sculpture ..........................................................

Computer Arts ................................................

Films ...............................................................

Performing Arts ............................................

Takings from more than one program . . .

UNALLOCATED INCOME Department of the Capital Territory . . . .

Schools Commission .......................................

ACA G r a n t s .....................................................

Women’s International Year Secretariat . . Donations from I n d u s tr y ..................................

Membership F e e s ...........................................

Sale of Fixtures and Fittings ........................

S u n d r y ...............................................................

UNALLOCATED EXPENDITURE Salaries and Consultants F e e s ........................

Less: R e im b u rse m e n t.......................................

Publicity and P r o m o tio n ..................................

Other P r o g r a m s ................................................

Travelling .....................................................

Printing and Sationery ..................................

Miscellaneous ................................................

SURPLUS OF INCOME OVER EXPENDITURE

Income Expenditure

$ $

12 803 44 045

608 27 262

12 894 29 424

5 126 38 262

819 22 064

3 217 31 532

5 146 16 303

13 431 77 337

16 282 ..

176 000 25 000 76 710 10 885 26 777

1 320 8 086 628

48 212

16 972

44 717 7 941 4 946 3 629 16 064

966

412 704 412 704

DONATIONS FROM PRIVATE ENTERPRISE John F a i r f a x ....................................................................................... 10 000

Stocks and Holdings ........................................................................ 500

Citra ................................................................................................ 5 000

Myer Foundation ............................................................................. 1 000

Concrete Industries (Monier) Limited ............................................ 100

G.M.H..................................................................................................... 4 000

J. B. Y o u n g s ....................................................................................... 250

B.H.P....................................................................................................... 5 000

L o m b a r d ............................................................................................ 200

Utah ................................................................................................ 500

26 550

Other ................................................................................................ 227

Total ........................................................................................... 26 777

PARTICULARS OF THE EXPENDITURE OF $31 000 Keith Michell at the Canberra Theatre ........................................... 8 000

Two concerts sponsored in part by the International Women’s Year Committee .................................................................................. 4 000

Film program .................................................................................. 9 000

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Income Expenditure

$ $

Increased publicity c o s t s ..................................................................... 5 000

Cost of attendants at exhibitions ...................................................... 3 500

South Australian Film Corporation ................................................. 1 500

31 000

GENERAL-DEPARTMENTAL REVENUE-LAND RENT

Chairman

Hansard Reference—Page 167

Questions

(a) I want to know generally what is the position as to outstanding land rent.

(b) Has any accrued since 1970?

(c) What is the amount of arrears accrued to 1970?

(d) I would like a list of those that have not been recovered, how long they have been outstanding (over$100).

Answers

(a) Land rent ceased to be payable under the City Area Leases Ordinance after 31 December 1970. The Department is endeavouring to collect some amounts which still remain unpaid.

(b) No. (c) $23 129 (d ) -

Name o f Debtor Property Amount Period covered

W. & H. Fritz ......................... . 3/11 Torrens

$

109.54 1.7.69-31.12.70

J. & K. Veloudos .................... . 11/35 Chifiey 347.31 1.1.67-31.12.70

S. & D. M a r tin e llo .................... . 30/38 Torrens (vacated) 122.88 16.8.66-27. 5.69

Olma (Canberra) Pty Ltd . . . 12/20 Braddon 4 046.58 10.7.70-31.12.70

Beazley & Bruce Pty Ltd . . . . 19/21 Braddon 3 563.07 1.7.70-31.12.70

Robert Mark & Co. Pty Ltd . . . 2/28 Braddon 1 450.00 1.7.70-31.12.70

Devlin Investments Pty Ltd . . 16/28 Braddon 4 599.16 21.6.70-31.12.70

Canberra Steam Laundry Pty Ltd . 12/29 Braddon 5 390.14 5.7.70-31.12.70

Robert Mark & Co. Pty Ltd . . . 3/35 City 1 505.10 1.7.70-31.12.70

D. L. Bowden ............................. 787.79 25.5.67-26. 6.68

Μ. & E. D e n b o r o u g h .................... . 22/20 Pearce 149.97 1.1.70-31.12.70

C. E. & M. A. Mackenzie . . . . . 11/20 Farrer 130.47 1.1.69-31.12.70

22 202.0!

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CHAIRMAN

Hansard Reference—Page 171

Question

Would the Department please provide a paper setting out the details of the ser­ vices provided through the Transport Trust Account including the numbers of drivers now hired compared with the vehicles in use, and the recent growth of these areas etc?

Answer

GENERAL

The Department sought $875 000 under Division 829/5/05—Working Capi­ tal Advance (for payment to the A.C.T. Transport Trust Account). This advance is to provide additional liquidity in the A.C.T. Transport Trust Account. The money will not be used to purchase plant or equipment. Money for the purchase of plant

and equipment was provided under Division 829/4/02.

The operation of the Ministerial and Passenger Car Fleet, the Goods Fleet, the Self Drive Vehicle Fleet and the Canberra Bus Service is financed through the Transport Trust Account. There has been a general increase in costs in this area and there in a need to provide additional working capital to meet these costs.

Wages, fuel, oil, grease, tyres and spare parts are included and must be financed pending the recovery of these costs from the users of the services provided. In the case of the Canberra Omnibus Service, a separate subvention is provided under Division 210/3/10. The moneys sought are therefore an advance which will be

repaid to consolidated revenue in the event that the Trust Account was closed down.

CANBERRA TRANSPORT OPERATIONS

History

The Department of the Interior was created in 1932 and assumed responsi­ bility for the provision of Government and public transport services in the A.C.T. Previously these responsibilities were allocated to the Department of Home Affairs, the Department of Works and the Federal Capital Commission. The De­

partment of the Capital Territory assumed these functions from the Department of the Interior.

Transport fo r Government Officials

The Department acts as a Government Transport Authority in the A.C.T. It provides chauffer vehicles and self drive vehicles appropriate to the functions of Departments and Authorities. The chauffer driven fleet provides transport for Ministers, Members of Parliament and Senators. Unused capacity at non peak

periods is used to provide transport for government officials. A goods fleet is pro­ vided, some with drivers, and an extensive self drive car fleet provides for the majority of users. The chauffer driven fleet has risen to 151 from 110 vehicles in 1973 to cope with demand. Not all vehicles are currently in use as demand in the

last six months has been declining. The Goods Fleet is also being progressively

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reduced as many hirers are making increased use of contract facilities. The Self Drive Vehicle Fleet has risen to the present level of 2009 vehicles from approx­ imately 1700 in 1973. The following table details drivers and vehicles at April 1976. Hire charges are also shown.

Number o f Number o f vehicles drivers

Ministerial and Passenger Fleet (chauffer driven large sedans) . . . 151 111

Goods Fleet including breakdown and forklift t r u c k s ........................ 95 73

Self Drive Fleet (on hire to government departments and authorities)

Weekly Number o f

Class o f vehicle rental vehicles

$

M o to rc y c le s ............................................................................................. 8.00 65

Trailers (2 w h e e l ) ................................................................................... 3.00 56

Ablution U n i t s ........................................................................................ 10.00 3

Medium Passenger Vehicles (Sedans and Station Sedans) . . . . 21.00 292

Commercial Vehicles over 15cwt to 20cwt (Vans and Microbus) . . 19.00 329

Commercial Vehicles over 20cwt to 30cwt (Double Cabs-Tippers-Flat Tops-Transit Vans) ......................................................................... 25.00 137

Commercial Vehicles over 30cwt and Special Units (Tippers-Flat Tops-Tankers-Crane Trucks) .................................................................. 32.00 30

Four Wheel Drive Vehicles (Utilities-Hardtops-Station Sedans) . . 27.00 114

Small Passenger Vehicles (Sedans and Station Sedans) ................... 15.00 569

Commercial Vehicles to 15cwt ( Utilities and Panel Vans) . . . . 16.00 273

Police Vehicles (Sedans-Station Sedans-Four Wheel Drive Vans- B u s e s ) ................................................................................................. 35.00 141

NOTE: Expenses incurred as a result of accidents, such as Third Party claims and repair costs will be added to the above charges.

PUBLIC TRANSPORT

Public transport in Canberra is provided by a bus service. The operation of this service by Government is in line with interstate and overseas trends. This trend has been caused by the high cost of operating a labour intensive industry, the urgent need for city-wide co-ordination of transport, the cost of providing unlimited facilities for the private car and the need to cater for car-less sections of the community.

The bus service in Canberra has operated under Government control since June 1926. The Department now operates 347 buses and employs 367 drivers. The service operates over 61 bus routes. The aim is to provide a service to Canberra residents so that public transport is a viable alternative to the private car.

The fleet has been expanded from 200 vehicles in 1973 as a result of Government approval.

URBAN GROWTH

The demand for a better bus service comes from the urban growth of the city. This includes new suburbs as well as the changing density and altering social

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characteristics of existing residential areas. Extensions are now required to pro­ vide services to seven new suburbs and improved connections to two developing major employment areas. Improved services are also necessary for much of Wes­ ton Creek and some Belconnen suburbs and to cope with increasing employment

in established centres. To compete with the private car the bus service must be convenient. Excessive walking distances to bus routes and the circuitous nature of some services are an unattractive feature and must be progressively eliminated.

The implementation of a new route structure, together with efficient timetables has been delayed due to employment ceilings, financial constraints and industrial difficulties. Implementation of many operational efficiencies has been blocked by Union interference.

EXPANSION

The size of Canberra’s public transport operations will increase at a rate greater than that required to service new areas. The demand for public transport rises with population growth. Any city has a finite limit to accommodate motor cars, especially those used by workers. As parking becomes difficult so the de­

mand for public transport grows. It is established fact that unrestrained private car use cannot be contained in the urban environment. Space demands are excessive, pollution damages prop­ erty and health and safety of citizens is qt risk. Canberra has a potentially danger­

ous air pollution problem. This was shown by recent studies conducted using Uni­ versity expertise. If high levels of private car use are maintained, Canberra with a population of 1 million will be in an air pollution situation similar to that of San Francisco,

Sydney and Tokyo. Space requirements of a car oriented city are also important. Canberra City now has 8500 parking spaces. The demand for further spaces will occur with em­ ployment. This alienates land which could efficiently be used for retail and office

development. Parking stations cost almost $4000 per parking space. It is more desirable to promote public transport. The growth of the bus service it therefore viable. The alternative is costly and

unacceptable. Investment in more buses and drivers is required. Investment in facilities such as depots and interchanges must be made. These investments are an expression of confidence in our future so that we can reap the benefits of a balanced development. To delay these investments will place us eventually in a

situation of having to mount rescue operations. The Government approved an expansion and improvement programme of the bus service in Canberra in 1973. This move prevented the degeneration to a level where a rescue operation was required. In Sydney the State Public Transport

Commission recently announced such a rescue operation to rehabilitate its fleet and facilities for the cost of $270m.

CONCLUSION The operation of the Canberra Bus Service is designed to provide a reasonable alternative to the private car and to cater for the increasing numbers of people travelling to work by bus.

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The alternatives are few. To do nothing would be to abandon planning control and to place at risk the vision of a national capital. To provide facilities for the pri­ vate car is costly and has undesirable social and environmental consequences. Transport must be developed as a balance and with an investment in public transport.

In Canberra a bus expansion program includes fleet increases, more drivers and the development of facilities. It also means an ongoing commitment to a reasonable subvention for operations. The operation itself must be as efficient and cost conscious as possible.

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SENATE ESTIMATES COMMITTEE F

NATIONAL CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION

Division 975—Capital Works and Services.

1. For expenditure under the National Capital Development Commission A c t-$ 17 500 000.

The Commission’s expenditure relates to the capital works activities as detailed in the Civil Works Program for 1975-76 and will be achieved in the amount of $170.5m under Division 975-1, in the original Appropriation Bill No. 2.

The estimated expenditure for the year is now $188m.

The additional expenditure for 1975-76 included in Additional Estimates Appro­ priation Bill No. 4 relates solely to the effect o f cost increases under the rise/fall clause in contracts. The clause is based on a formula incorporating the principles laid down and adopted by members of the National Public Works Conference comprising the

Commonwealth Department of Construction, the National Capital Development Commission and the six State Public Works Departments. The rise/fall clause is included in all contracts where the initial construction period is over 26 weeks.

The formula is a 2-part one reflecting movements in the prices of wages and materials. The component part of the contract relating to wages has a factor applied to it according to the increases in a specific wages schedule, similarly the material component is increased in accordance with material price indices. The factors for

labour and materials vary according to the particular trade involved.

As a general indication, the formula over the last 12 months has indicated a rise in building contracts of some 14.56 per cent. These include national wage increases of 3.5 percent (June 1975) and 6.4 per cent (February 1976). Other significant increases relate to the implementation in the A.C.T. of the Arbitrator’s determinations on a

national construction workers award and the application of the Arbitrator’s decision on site allowances at Googong Dam and Lower Molonglo Water Quality Control Centre. Of an estimated 2500projects presently under control of the Commission, 137 are subject to rise and fall. The significant ones are consolidated under their Civil Works

Program headings in the attached list with a dissection of the $ 17.5m.

National Capital Development Commission 21 May 1976

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ATTACHMENT A

NATIONAL CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION

RISE/FALL 1975-76 $17.5m

Land Development Current value of c o n t r a c t s ................................................................$ 109.7m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ...................................................... $1.98m

Including provision of roads and services to Kambah, Wanniassa, Cowrie, Monash, Giralang, Charnwood, Cook, Kaleen and Spence.

Water Supply—Trunk Services and Headworks Current value of c o n t r a c t s ................................................................$47m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ...................................................... $l . l m

Including construction of Googong Dam, supply and delivery of pipes Googong- Canberra, construction of reservoirs at Hughes, South Taylor, Hackett, O ’Malley and Gungahlin.

-Sewerage—Trunk Services and Headworks Current value of c o n t r a c t s ............................................................... $63.4m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ......................................................$3.6m

Including Lower Molonglo Water Quality Control Centre and construction of Molonglo and Tuggeranong interceptor sewers.

Storm water—Trunk Services Current value of c o n t r a c t s ............................................................... $13m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ......................................................$0.475m

Including construction of trunk drains at Tuggeranong Creek, Woden Valley and Sullivans Creek.

Housing and Flats Current value of c o n t r a c t s ............................................................... $71m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ......................................................$2.7m

Including long term housing contracts for 1200 houses and construction of town houses at Melba, Rivett, Waramanga, Scullin and Garran.

Education Current value of c o n t r a c t s ............................................................... $78m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ......................................................$2.02m

Including Canberra School of Music; Phillip, Hawker and Stirling Colleges; Kam­ bah, Melba and Wanniassa High Schools; and primary schools at Kaleen, Urambi, Giralang, Hawker, Wanniassa and Charnwood.

Roads, Bridges and Traffic Control Current value of c o n t r a c t s ...............................................................$24.5m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ..................................................... $0.75m

Including Erindale Drive, Drakeford Drive, Canberra Avenue (Fyshwick— Queanbeyan), Gundaroo Road and Ginninderra Drive.

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City Works Current value of c o n t r a c t s ............................................................... $5.4m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ..................................................... $80 000

Including construction of Belconnen Police Station and Weston Horticulture Complex.

Retail, Commercial and Industrial Current value of c o n t r a c t s ............................................................... $13.2m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ..................................................... $0.2m

Including provision of roads and services to industrial areas and town centres at Mitchell, Kippax, Belconnen and Woden.

Recreation and Culture Current value of c o n t r a c t s ...............................................................$4m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ..................................................... $90 000

Including Woden District Library and Canberra Showgrounds.

Health and Welfare Current value of c o n t r a c t s ...............................................................$5.6m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ..................................................... $65 000

Including Narrabundah Health Centre and Narrabundah Nursing Home.

Commonwealth Offices Current value of c o n t r a c t s ...............................................................$131m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ..................................................... $3.94m

Including construction of Belconnen West Offices (Stages 1 and 2), Cameron Offices, Trade Offices Complex, Campbell Park Offices, A.C.T. Health Services Building, and Department of Foreign Affairs Communication Centre.

National Works Current value of c o n t r a c t s ...............................................................$48m

Rise/Fall payments in 1975-76 ..................................................... $0.5m

Including Australian National Gallery and High Court of Australia.

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D EPA R TM EN T OF THE CAPITAL TERRITORY

Post Office Box 158 Canberra City, A.C.T. 2601

25 May 1976

The Secretary Senate Estimates Committee F Parliament House Canberra 2600

DEPARTMENTAL REVEN UE-LAN D RENT

At the hearing of the Committee this morning the Chairman sought additional infor­ mation regarding outstanding Land Rent owing to the Department. As mentioned in evidence there is no completely satisfactory answer to the delay in finalising recovery of the outstanding amounts shown in the Department’s sub­ mission of 24.5.76. Each of the 12 cases referred to has its own particular difficulties which even now preclude early finalisation. In most cases the lessees were billed at about the time the rent became payable. Subsequent events, for example, appeals against reappraisal of land values (the basis on which land rent was calculated) hin­

dered follow-up action in the early stages. In addition, failure to adjust amounts out­ standing on transfers of leases has now complicated the recovery action. While the particular cases now remaining must be a cause for concern, it is men­ tioned that in the calendar year 1970 (Land Rent was abolished on 31.12.70) Land Rent accounts to the value of $2.6m were issued. The amount now outstanding represents less than 1 per cent of this sum.

The Department has these accounts under continuous review and where appropri­ ate the matter has been referred to the Deputy Crown Solicitor for legal action, e.g. W. & H. Fritz, J. & K. Veloudos, S. & D. Martinello and Beazley and Bruce Pty Ltd.

D. M. LALOR fo r Secretary

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