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Tuesday, 12 December 1911

Senator McGREGOR (South Australia) (Vice-President of the Executive Council) . - I hope that Senator Rae will not persist with his opposition to the clause, which is intended for the convenience of the employes, as well as the employer. The object is to give no encouragement to the creation of costs. No one is to go to the Court with the expectation that he can incur whatever expense he likes in connexion with the claim and come upon any person for the costs. Lawyers are to be kept out of the Court for that very purpose.

Senator Rae - Can there be no costs, then?

Senator McGREGOR - Very little. What costs can there possibly be beyond the ordinary expenses of bringing the case before the Court? There will be no witnesses to pay, because the complainant; will be the witnesses in common with the Commissioner and the Minister. The parties will be in exactly the sameposition towards each other as are an ordinary em ployer and a body of employes. To gran in such legislation the power to claim cost: would be only to offer inducements to persons to go before the Court for the purpose of running up a bill of costs.Seeing that the real object of legislation of this kind is to settle disputes with aslittle expense as possible to both parties, no encouragement should be given in that direction.

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