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Wednesday, 6 December 1911

Senator PEARCE (Western AustraliaMinister of Defence) . - If the amendments which I intend to move are made the clause will read -

All moneys . . . shallbe payable out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund or out of any moneys standing to the credit of the Loan Fund, according to appropriations made by Parliament for that purpose.

It will be seen that the clause, as amended, will quite safeguard what was intended, namely, that apart from this Bill there should be an appropriation by Parliament for this work whether from the Consolidated Revenue Fund or from the Loan Fund.

Senator ALBERT GOULD (NEW SOUTH WALES) -Colonel Sir AlbertGould. - So that, in other words, nothing will be done until an Appropriation Bill is passed.

Senator PEARCE - That is so. The amendment which the Government accepted in another place was moved in order to make it clear that Parliament should have that right, but, having been accepted on the spur of the moment, these superfluous words were left in the clause. Unless they are omitted it may be awkward to construe the provision. In the first place, I move -

That the words " and the Consolidated Revenue Fund and the Loan Fund," lines 6 and 7, be left out.

Senator Lt.-Colonel Sir ALBERTGOULD (New South Wales) [2.50]. - I wish it to be made clear that in the event of the Government making an arrangement with the two States to get land for the purpose of carrying out the railway the matter will again come before Parliament, and it will be quite competent for Parliament to approve or disapprove of the arrangement made, subject to the passing of an Appropriation Bill. In other words, suppose that the States say that the Com monwealth shall have only 3 chains of land for the route of the railway, and that Ministers suggest that its construction should be proceeded with, and tha Senate thought that a much wider strip ought to be secured, would it stillbe open to the Senate to consider the matter when an Appropriation Bill was brought forward ?

Senator McGregor - The Senate can refuse an appropriation.

Senator Lt Colonel Sir ALBERT GOULD - That is satisfactory.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment (by Senator Pearce) proposed -

That the words " from time to time," line 8, be left out.

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