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Friday, 28 September 1906


Senator PLAYFORD (South Australia) (Minister of Defence) - - In accordance with the President's ruling, I submit my motion in the following amended form : -

That so much of standing order No. 271 as refers to a period of twenty-one days be suspended for the remainder of the session, for the purpose of expediting the passing of the Constitution Alteration (Special Duties) Bill through its remaining stages.

Question put.


Senator Drake - I object, on the ground that no notice was given of this motion.


The PRESIDENT - But I have put the question.


Senator Drake - I object to the Minister amending the motion.


Senator Pearce - The President has ruled that the Minister may submit the motion as amended.


Senator Drake - But I object to the Minister amending the motion.


The PRESIDENT - I have put the question.


Senator Drake - Then I rise to a point of order.


The PRESIDENT - What is the point of order?


Senator Drake - I object to the motion on the ground that no notice has been given of it.


The PRESIDENT - The honorable senator is not objecting to mv ruling; he is objecting to all the decisions of the Senate in the past - to the universal practice, as being wrong. The honorable senator evidently wishes to say that he himself has been wrong on a great many occasions. I think it is a highly technical point of order which ought not to be taken at all. I shall put the question again.


Senator Drake - Then I object to your ruling, Mr. President, and I shall put my dissent in writing.


The PRESIDENT - I am 'getting tired of these objections to my rulings, .and I shall put the question to the Senate now -

That the President's ruling be objected to.

Division called for.


Senator Millen - I was out just now, but I understand-


The PRESIDENT - A division has been called for, and the honorable senator is out of order.


Senator Clemons - So far as I am concerned, there will be no division. In my opinion the question, as put. is out of order.


Senator Millen - I think that, under the Standing Orders, I .may speak in division if I keep mv seat.


The PRESIDENT - The honorable senator is entitled to speak only on a question of order arising out of the division.


Senator Millen - If an honorable senator is entitled to speak in division, keeping his seat, it is clear he is entitled 'tospeak about matters which arose before the division was called for.


The PRESIDENT - No.


Senator Millen - Then an honorable senator may speak after a division. I enter my protest against these proceedings, because there is no standing order which enables you to take a division on this matter in the way proposed. It is absolutely monstrous to fake a division on a matter when there is no provision in the Standing Orders for referring it to the Senate at all.

Several honorable senators having left the chamber,


The PRESIDENT - There being no "Ayes," there is no division. The question is resolved in the negative.







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