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Wednesday, 29 August 1906


Senator TRENWITH (Victoria) . - I am astonished that honorable senators should discuss the amendment seriously at all. I recognised that Senator Symon was chaffing, us.


Senator Sir Josiah Symon - Indeed I was not, but I am glad the honorable senator takes it good humouredly,


Senator TRENWITH - If the honorable and learned senator was not. ' then I am astonished at the sort of preference he desires to give to the mother country, This is a Bill designed to prevent persons combining intentionally to destroy Australian industries.


Senator Drake - Where does the honorable senator see that in these clauses ?


Senator TRENWITH - Senator Symonproposes that this Bill shall not apply .to Great Britain.


Senator Sir Josiah Symon - The honorable senator is thinking of Part II.


Senator TRENWITH - Well, dumping with the intention to destroy Australian industries is just as baneful as any other operation with the same object.


Senator Drake - There is nothing about any such intention in these clauses.


Senator TRENWITH - Assuming, that the intention to destroy is just as baneful when emanating from Great Britain as it is from any other part of the world, we may also assume that it is not likely to come from that quarter.


Senator Sir Josiah Symon - And if it does not come from that quarter, why should not the honorable senator say so?


Senator TRENWITH - Because, in saying so, v/e should be saying, possibly, that England might want to dump goods here with the intention of destroying Australian industries, That would be offering to her' an insult to which I, for one, shall be no party.


Senator Sir Josiah Symon - But it is being inflicted upon her by the Bill.


Senator TRENWITH - No. In the (Bill we are saying to all and sundry that we do not intend to allow certain things to be done which are injurious to us, which are not honorable, and which are not fair trading on the part of those who undertake to do them. We should, I am confident, insult Great Britain by saying that we exempt her from its provisions. It would be just as friendly to Great Britain if, when we were passing a law to prevent thieving, we were to provide that it should not apply to thieving done by Britons.


Senator Findley - Where are harvesters made by Massey-Harris ?


Senator TRENWITH - In the British Empire, but not in Great Britain, of which alone I am speaking at this moment.


Senator Pulsford - Does the honorable senator suggest that Massey-Harris are thieves ?


Senator TRENWITH - I do not wish to say in reference to any person anything which is offensive.


Senator Pulsford - But the honorable senator can say it by innuendo.


Senator TRENWITH - No; I am merely presenting an illustration. The Bill is intended to prevent the destruction of our industries, and the amendment says, in .effect, "It is true that there is evildoing in connexion with our industries ; but we propose that it shall not be prohibited so far as it originates in the mother country."


Senator Sir Josiah Symon - That is not what my amendment says.


Senator TRENWITH - It says that the mother country shall be exempted from the provisions of the Bill.


Senator Sir Josiah Symon - No ; it says that we do not believe that England exports goods for that purpose, or with that intent.


Senator TRENWITH - If the honorable senator wants to pass a declaratory resolution with reference to the integrity of Great Britain, I shall not be averse to' voting for his proposal ; but that is not what he proposes now. As I said, he was only chaffing when he moved the amendment. I am quite sure that, if it were within his power to inflict such an insult upon Great Britain, he would not be prepared to do it. His amendment is sub.mitted for the purpose, if he can, from his point of view, of poking a little fun at the Bill, and I do not propose to discuss it seriously. It is obviously absurd' to say, " We will pass a Bill against wrong-doing, but will permit anybody, evert our nearest relative, to do that wrong." It would be an insult to them to say so.







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