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Wednesday, 29 November 1905

The CHAIRMAN - I did not understand Senator Clemons to apply those epithets to Senator Mulcahy.

Senator CLEMONS - Nor to any one else. I shall not repeat the adjectives, which I think are sufficiently fresh in Senator Mulcahy's memory, but simply say that every one could be applied to the attitude of Tasmania if the people of that State were to go carefully into debtor and creditor accounts, and consider whether it would pay them better to adopt a purely Federal scheme of per capita expenditure, or to dodge and avoid such an arrangement.

Senator Pearce - Some Tasmanian representatives have used that argument.

Senator CLEMONS - I have not done so, and I am prepared to stand by anything that I have said. I shall never be a party to suggesting for one moment that Tasmania should barter and bargain on this question.

Senator Mulcahy - Who is suggesting that Tasmania should do so?

Senator CLEMONS - The honorable senator is undoubtedly making the suggestion. I move the request as a plea for uniformity; and I shall persist in it to a division.

Senator MULCAHY(Tasmania).- Am I in order in proposing an amendment to the request that the House of Representatives distribute £5,000 of this expenditure on a per capita basis ?

Senator Clemons - I have already intimated that I intend to move a request to that effect, if the request before us is negatived.

Senator MULCAHY - I asked the question because I cannot support the proposal that Senator Clemons has laid before us.

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