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Tuesday, 14 November 1905

Senator STANIFORTH SMITH - Certainly not. For instance, would presents, brought by immigrants, be forfeited if they did not bear on them all the information suggested in the amendment ?

Senator Playford - A man may bring in furniture.

Senator STANIFORTH SMITH - Yes, or clothing; and if this amendment were applied, an immigrant with all his linen and collars so marked, would be a sort of standing advertisement for some manufacturer. It is not within the scope of this Bill to pass a drastic provision of the kind, which I feel sure is not made in any similar Act in the world. It is of no use our enacting legislation which it is impossible to carry out.

Senator Findley - Why is it impossible?

Senator STANIFORTH SMITH - It is quite impossible for all goods and personal property which come into Australia to bear all the information. If a man brought into Australia nicknacks as presents, would be have to forfeit them if they were not all branded with this information ? I think the Committee will see that an amendment of this character is absolutely unworkable.

The amendment to which the honorable senator was referring, and which was ruled out of order, is simply the ground work of this Bill. It is very much to be regretted that both he and Senator Guthrie should be making this retrograde movement. I hope that, on reflection, they will help us to perfect the Bill.

Senator GUTHRIE(South Australia). - "Like flowers that bloom in the spring," the quotation which Senator Pulsford has just madehas nothing to do with the question before the Committee to-day. The point I took up last year was that we should do our part of the work when the goods came to our shores. On that occasion I contended that we should require the country of origin to be branded on the cases, and to-day I am contending that we should take power for the Minister to say what goods shall or shall not be admitted. I wish to inform Senator Gray that I hope to have his assistance to insert in clause 15 an amendment dealing with mining and shipping here.

Senator Sir JOSIAHSYMON (South Australia). - If Senator Guthrie wishes to enlarge the enumeration of clause15 - and I do not say whether I shall support his amendment or not - it will enable us to take the word "prescribed" out of clause 5.

Senator Guthrie - I am still in favour of giving power to take samples of many goods which the Minister may prescribe.

Senator Sir JOSIAH SYMON - My amendment would not take away that power from the Minister.

Senator Guthrie - I think it would.

Senator Sir JOSIAH SYMON - Of any goods inspected a sample may be taken ; and that is all we want.

Senator Guthrie - This clause allows a wider scope of inspection than is. permitted by clause 15.

Senator Sir JOSIAH SYMON - Then what is the use of enlarging clause 15? The discussion which has taken place satisfies me that clause 15 was intended to cover all classes, of goods which were to come under .the Bill ; and I think that when we reach that clause, the neater form of amendment would be to make it apply to clause 5 as well as to clauses 7 and 11. If that be done, it will not be necessary to have a schedule^

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