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Thursday, 26 October 1905

Senator O'KEEFE (Tasmania) - I thank YOU, sir, for calling my attention to the error in "the motion, which necessarily had to be framed in a hurry. I think it would have been better-

The PRESIDENT -The honorable senator must not make a speech, but ask leave to amend his motion.

Senator O'KEEFE - I ask leave to amend my motion, so that it shall read as follows :-

That the ruling of the President given on the 25th October, 1905, in reference to the Electoral Bill be dissented from on the ground that such ruling would unduly restrict the powers of the Senate in Committee.

The PRESIDENT - The question is that the honorable senator have leave to amend his motion.

Honorable Senators. - Hear, hear.

Motion amended accordingly..

The PRESIDENT - Does any honorable senator wish to speak?

Senator O'Keefe - Have I not the right, sir, to state my reasons for dissenting from your ruling?

The PRESIDENT - According to the standing order 393, an honorable senator who moves a motion cannot speak again except in reply. An honorable senator who seconds a motion without speaking has the right to speak to the question, but the standing order does not provide that the mover of a motion shall have the right to speak three times. Senator O'Keefe is taken to have spoken already. Of course he has the right of reply, but he has no right to speak now.

Senator O'Keefe - I understood, sir, that I was not able to speak last night, but was required to immediately hand in my dissent from your ruling in writing, so that the matter might be considered to-day. Otherwise I should have spoken last night.

The PRESIDENT - I never said anything of the sort.

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