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Thursday, 24 August 1972
Page: 748


Mr COPE (Sydney) - Mr Deputy Speaker,I wish to make a personal explanation.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! Does the honourable member claim to have been misrepresented?


Mr COPE - Yes, as a member of the Australian Labor Party-


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! The honourable member for Sydney-


Mr COPE - He has distinctly told an untruth.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! The honourable member for Sydney will resume his seat.


Mr COPE - I shall not until such time as he admits that he has told a deliberate lie. The matter was discharged-


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! The honourable member for Sydney will withdraw that remark.


Mr COPE - I will not withdraw that remark. He has told a deliberate lie.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! The honourable member for Sydney is-


Mr Les Johnson (HUGHES, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Stop shouting.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! The honourable member for Hughes also will remain silent.


Mr Les Johnson (HUGHES, NEW SOUTH WALES) - It is offensive and I have an earache.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER


Mr COPE - The matter was discharged and he knows it


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! The honourable member for Sydney has been an occupant of the chair on several occasions. Therefore, he ought to know the Standing Orders. He has broken the Standing Orders on 2 occasions. I suggest that the honourable member reflects on and withdraws the remark made in relation to the Minister for Education and Science.


Mr COPE - Well, I withdraw it. Now, let him explain the situation.


Mr Reynolds - I rise to take a point of order. When a Minister has said something that can be shown to be completely wrong about the policy of a Party, what recourse have members of that Party to rise and to make a statement denying what has been said or challenging the incorrect statement made by that Minister?


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! No point of order arises.


Mr Reynolds - Well, I am asking you the question.


Mr DEPUTY SPEAKER -Order! The honourable member for Barton also should know that it is not within the province of the Chair on a specific occasion to rule or to decide in regard to a statement made in relation to a policy.

Friday, 25 August 1972







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