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Wednesday, 13 March 1968


Mr Charles Jones (NEWCASTLE, VICTORIA) - Mr Speaker, I have sat here tonight, as I have on previous occasions in this Parliament, listening to apologies and to sanctimonious explanations such as those which have just been given by the Minister for Immigration and Leader of the House (Mr Snedden) in defence of the honourable member for Adelaide (Mr Andrew Jones) to the effect that what the honourable member for Adelaide did in the South Australian election was correct. The Leader of the House tried to justify the actions of the honourable member for Adelaide.

I recall an incident here not so very long ago shortly after the honourable member for Adelaide had been elected. The honourable member for Oxley (Mr Hayden) made reference to it. This was the alleged flicking of cigarette butts on the former Leader of the Opposition, the honourable member for Melbourne (Mr Calwell). Reference was made also to the statement by the honourable member for Adelaide about half the members of this Parliament being drunk half their time. What does the Leader of the House have to say about this one? Were these the ravings of a young man trying to do what was right? Does the honourable member acknowledge that half the members of this Parliament are drunk half their time, because I do not. I do not accept that statement. Honourable members opposite know it is not true, just as I do. The honourable member for Adelaide was let off the hook at that time very easily when he made his apology allegedly with tears trickling down his face. Was he using onions to bring on those tears? I think that we ought to have a look at his conduct when he talks about people being drunk half the time in this Parliament. Let us have a look at him. What happened at the function that was held in King's Hall in connection with the opening of the First Session of this Parliament? How long did it take the cleaners to clean up King's Hall? Let us have all the facts on this matter. If we are going to have a fight in this place, let us have it. I have sat in here and listened to the ravings of the honourable member for Mackellar (Mr Wentworth), who is now the Minister for Social Services, the honourable member for Mitchell (Mr Irwin), the honourable member for Moreton (Mr Killen) and other Government supporters. When one of the members on the Government side of the House puts his foot out of place, all sorts of explanations are offered for it.

If the honourable member for Adelaide is a young man, let him keep a young man's place. Let him not come into this House and start criticising men who have been here for many, many more years than he has been on this planet. As far as I am concerned, his accusation about members being drunk half the time is a complete fabrication and a figment of his own imagination because he himself has been one of the leading frequenters of the bar here.

So the honourable member should know. He has been in that condition many times and that is the reason why he judges other speakers-


Mr SPEAKER - Order! The honourable member for Newcastle will withdraw the imputation against the honourable member for Adelaide and his conduct in the House.


Mr Charles Jones (NEWCASTLE, VICTORIA) - What I said I believe to be true.


Mr SPEAKER - I name the honourable member for Newcastle.

Motion (by Mr Snedden) proposed:

That the honourable member for Newcastle be suspended from the service of the House.


Mr SPEAKER -The question is that the honourable member for Newcastle be suspended from the service of the House. Those of that opinion say Aye, to the contrary No.


Mr Whitlam - Before the question is put, I believe that the honourable member for Newcastle will withdraw the statement to which you, Mr Speaker, have objected, if you give him another chance. I would ask you to do that.


Mr Snedden - Although I moved the motion, Mr Speaker, you may find it convenient to ask the honourable member again.


Mr SPEAKER -I agree. I call the honourable member for Newcastle.


Mr Charles Jones (NEWCASTLE, VICTORIA) - I withdraw the Statement, with great difficulty.


Mr SPEAKER -The honourable member will withdraw it unconditionally.


Mr Charles Jones (NEWCASTLE, VICTORIA) - I withdraw the statement. I believe that the Parliament has been very lenient to the honourable member for Adelaide. I believe we have been lenient with him far too long when he comes in here and makes such statements or when he conducts himself in the manner in which he has conducted himself since he has been a member of the Parliament. As far as I and members of the Opposition are concerned, we will take him to task for the way in which he has conducted himself.


Mr Pearsall - The honourable member would not know; he has been away for months.


Mr Charles Jones (NEWCASTLE, VICTORIA) - 1 have been here for a long time and a lot longer than the honourable member for Franklin has been here or will be here. I strongly object to what the honourable member for Adelaide said on the occasion to which I have made reference. I believe that people making accusations in this chamber ought to be perfect and have a look at themselves before they start reflecting on other honourable members who have conducted, and do conduct, themselves in an orderly and gentlemanly fashion here.







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