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Thursday, 19 May 1960

Mr GALVIN (Kingston) .- I support the amendment moved by the honorable member for East Sydney (Mr. Ward). It was a change to hear the speech just delivered by the honorable member for Canning (Mr. Hamilton). One has become used to the honorable member for Canning always putting up a forceful and constructive argument in this chamber; but what a contrast his speech was to that of the assistant Government Whip, the honorable member for Phillip (Mr. Aston) who rose hysterically in his place, threw his arms about, and in desperation tried to turn this debate from an examination of the legislation into an attack on the Labour Party. I hope he is convinced by the statement by the Leader of the Opposition (Mr. Calwell) that this party is 100 per cent. behind the amendment.

Mr Wight - I wish to take a point of order, Mr. Temporary Chairman. I should like to direct your attention to Standing Order No. 87, which lists the matters that are not open to debate. The final paragraph reads -

Should any of these questions be negatived, no similar proposal shall be received within a quartet of an hour and no similar proposal shall be received if the Speaker or the Chairman is of opinion that it is an abuse of the orders or forms of the House, or is moved for the purpose of obstructing business.

I direct your attention to the fact that Leader of the Opposition himself said that this amendment was moved for the express purpose of allowing the honorable member for East Sydney to get round a ruling given by the Chair that he could not, under the terms of the bill before the House, initiate a full-scale debate on the banking issue. For that reason, Sir, and for that reason only, as the Leader of the Opposition said, this amendment was moved. In other words, the amendment has been moved for the purpose of obstructing business, and for that reason I suggest that the amendment is out of order.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN - The amendment is quite in order.

Mr Harold Holt - I think the merits are with the honorable member, and I put the question to the House.

Mr Ward - You put what question?

Mr Harold Holt - That the question be now put.

Mr Ward - I rise to order, Mr. Temporary Chairman. If the " Hansard " report is now read to the committee you will find that the Treasurer has not moved anything. What he said in effect-

Mr Harold Holt - If I have not moved anything, I move now -

That the question be now put.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN - My ruling is that the question before the committee is that the question be now put.

Mr Galvin - This is the Communist technique of denying people the right to speak.

Mr Harold Holt - You are using the Communist technique of damaging democracy.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN.Order! The committee will come to order, and I warn the honorable member for Kingston and the honorable member for Kingsford-Smith to moderate their behaviour. Is a division required on the motion?

Opposition members. - Yes.

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN - The committee will divide. Ring the bells.I warn honorable members that during a division the Chair still has power to act in relation to unruly conduct.

Mr Curtin - Mr. Temporary Chairman

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN - I warn the honorable member for KingsfordSmith that toleration can be extended too far to some honorable members on both sides.

Mr Curtin - I was only trying to ask a question.

Question put -

That the question be now put.

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