Mr CRAMER (BENNELONG, NEW SOUTH WALES) (Minister for the Army) - I have seen the statement, which was published in the Melbourne " Sun News-Pictorial ", and I agree that it might give rise to misunderstanding, for it implied that the call-up had been reduced to 8,000. It is, of course, not true to say that only 8,000 young men will undertake training next year. However, in each call-up a large number of trainees obtained deferment on grounds of ill health, studies, hardship, occupation and so on. Thus, in a call-up of 12,000, there might be no more than 8,000 effective trainees. However, because of previous deferments, there is a large pool of trainees awaiting call-up. The deficiency is made up from this pool and from volunteers, who also come into the picture. The honorable member may be assured that each intake is not only full but also, in fact, slightly in excess of the quota of 12,000.