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Wednesday, 21 September 1949

Mr HAYLEN (Parkes) .- I have listened attentively and with considerable interest to the case made by the honorable member for Bendigo (Mr. Rankin). I should like to reply to some of his arguments, but I shall certainly ignore his rabid remarks about conscription, and his alarums and excursions concerning the next war. The honorable member is a soldier of considerable distinction, and is to be listened to on almost every subject except that on which he is an expert, namely, military tactics. For that reason, and in view of the honorable member's record and hia sincerity, I shall say nothing on that subject except that I utterly oppose everything that he said about it. To-day, the honorable member is the mouthpiece for anti-British propaganda that is now emanating from the Opposition benches solely because the British Government at present is a Labour administration. Nationalization, devaluation, in fact all the cares of the world, are laid at the door of the socialist Government of Great Britain. So, patriotism flies out at the door under the pressure of that very thing called free enterprise, and of the propagandists who say, " No matter what you think, you must rub it into Great Britain at the moment because Great Britain has a Socialist Government. We must get rid of the Socialist Government in Great Britain, and we are waiting for other socialist governments in their turn ". What a paltry performance we saw here on the part of honorable members opposite who say that they know best. As my remarks will show, and as history has already shown, far from there being any truth in the statement of the honorable member for Bendigo that Great Britain's prestige has suffered, the recorded facts are all to the contrary. Honorable members opposite have talked loosely about Mr. Attlee pulling the nation down and about Sir Stafford Cripps being a traitor to his country. I was sorry to hear in any dominion parliament such scathing criticism of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Whatever may be his views on. socialism, at least the people will remember that he was elected by democratic franchise and that his single-mindedness is one of the proud stories of the Empire to-day. Even admitting .that he may be wrong, honorable members opposite have no warrant to malign him as they have done in this chamber. Sir Stafford Cripps's single-minded devotion to his ideas has earned him the respect of the world. He is a man of exceptional talents, and of great learning. His most outstanding characteristic is his devotion to what he considers to be the interests of the Empire. His example of austerity might very well be copied by those who ask for more work from the workers and more dividends for themselves. The statement of the honorable member for Bendigo that socialism is killing the United Kingdom, and that Sir Stafford Cripps and others are bringing the Empire down, is just a lot of gaggle which honorable members opposite have gathered together and spit out to the people. Too many Opposition members have made their election speeches in this chamber to-day. They have been giving themselves a run, or what is called in racing parlance, " barrier trials ". There have been few potential winners so far. I commend to the honorable member for Bendigo the words of an impartial observer, Mr. Paul Hoffman, the Marshall plan administrator, on the question whether socialism is killing the United Kingdom. Reporting an interview with Mr. Paul Hoffman on this subject on Tuesday the 30th August, 1949, the Melbourne Herald said -

Mr. PaulHoffman, Marshall Plan Administrator, today denied that Socialism was delaying Britain's economic recovery.

This, of course, antedates decisions which have since been made, but it is as factual now as when it was written. The report continues -

Questioned at a press conference on his personal inspection of European recovery under the Marshall Plan, Mr. Hoffman was pressed to comment on charges that Socialism was responsible for Britain's economic crisis.

Mr. Hoffmannamed industries nationalized by the British Government - coal, railroads and the Bank oi England - and added: "When you get down to cases, nothing the British Government has done as yet has affected the recovery programme. " They nationalized the Bank of England, and nobody knew the difference."

The only rebuttal of the statements of economists and leaders of finance and of governments we can get from Opposition members is the cry, " We want more production; we must have more work from the workers ". This cry of " More and more work so that our selfish comfort may be as it was before ", and all this nonsense about economic stability and better standards which has driven some honest people mad, and angered the people generally, is an attempt to ride on the back of the- worker. During the speech of the honorable member for Wannon (Mr. McLeod), the honorable member for Bendigo interjected, saying that the honorable member for Wannon was " home on the sheep's back". If we in this nation are ever " home " on anything we are " home " on the back of the worker who produces the real wealth of the country. That is elementary. So this constant cry for more and more work is intended only to benefit those who make it. The right honorable member for Darling Downs (Mr. Fadden) is the worst offender in this respect. He talks in figures. He is a human adding machine. He simply stuns people with figures that in the final analysis show that he has added two to two and made five. These practices are resented outside the Parliament. There is a constant cry from honorable members opposite for more and more work from the workers. What they mean is more sweat from the already sweated. A Christian gentleman, the Bishop of Chelmsford, is reported in to-day's Sydney Morning Herald to have said, in effect, " We talk of putting the worker to work again. We put the 6ame old horse into the same old cart and give him the same old task, but if we urge him on to greater efforts I forecast that he will do one of two things - he will either fall down dead in the shafts or kick the cart to pieces ". Those people who like to rant about socialism, who adopt some ready-made formula in order to gain a little cheap publicity, should remember that one of these days the worker, who really carries the burden, will kick the cart to pieces -unless we give him the standards that they themselves enjoy. In rebuttal of the statement made by the honorable member for Bendigo that Britain is being dragged down by the Socialist Government we have the words of Mr. Paul Hoffman, an impartial observer who has weighed money spending in Europe - and no man is more cautious of his bank book and of his account books than is the man who checks up on what the capitalists euphemistically term " outgoings ". "Under pressure from pressmen who were seeking a story, he uttered the words which I have just read to honorable members. That, surely, is a strong rebuttal of the statement that Sir Stafford Cripps is a traitor because he sees the light differently from the honorable member for Bendigo. There is perplexity about these formulas which are to bring about prosperity. Honest men on both sides of this chamber, and public men throughout the world, are searching for formulas. It is idle for honorable members opposite to repeat these outworn shibboleths about the output of the workers. The honorable member for Bendigo has also been answered effectively by the Bishop of Chelmsf ord whose words I have repeated. Having established the fact that there is another point of view in relation to the means by which Britain's recovery may be brought about, I want to draw a comparison between the attitude of the Opposition towards Britain to-day and what is was in the past. From where is pressure being applied in this country to obtain newsprint from Russia? From where is the pressure coming to obtain petrol from behind the Iron Curtain? Is the patriotism of members of the Opposition only concerned with their economic safety? Is their imperial sentiment only concerned with their dividends; or is their imagination so jumbled that they do not know where they are in the new order, this new world which has emerged with all its troubles and tribulations? Now they urge that we should re-open trade with Japan. "Were the "socialists" of this country responsible for the collapse of the price structure, which precipitated inflation, and was the immediate cause of our problems, the solution of which will keep the lights burning in Canberra, and many other places, for some time to come ? Was it the " socialists " who broke down the very necessary controls that arose out of the war, including the provisions to restrict black-market operations, and all the other levels and checks that were introduced by what our friends call the " planning departments " ? All those controls were thrown away under the pressure which the Opposition parties brought to bear upon the people. The Opposition still complains of the petrol shortage, although its members have had the benefit of hearing the Prime Minister's explanation of the reason for the present shortage. Now, I ask them, why .this sudden anxiety to obtain petrol outside the Empire? Apparently they are prepared to go anywhere to obtain petrol. They complain that we have not dealt sufficiently stringently with communism. They cry, " The Labour party tolerates Communists within its own ranks ". The old socialistic tiger has had a dry-cleaning and now emerges as a " Com ". We have been listening to this tale of the Communistic tiger in our midst for weeks and weeks. Yet, as soon as an opportunity presents itself to trade with the hated Reds, the Opposition, and the business interests whom they represent, cannot seize that opportunity soon enough. They complain, " Why cannot we get newsprint from Russia ? " In fact, newsprint is on the way from Russia, and it is the same newsprint as that on which Izvestia and Pravda are printed. Apparently, it doe3 not matter to the newspaper proprietors whence their newsprint comes. Private enterprise recognizes only one consideration, profit, and is not concerned about the source of the materials from which that profit comes. We hear a great deal from honorable members of the Opposition about other goods that are in short supply. As I have said, we have heard a great deal lately about petrol. The Opposition trumpets that Russia has petrol, and cries, " Let us get it there ". Big business is not deterred' because that petrol comes from behind the Iron Curtain. As with newsprint, its only concern is its profits. Where is the sincerity of honorable members opposite ? The honorable member for Parramatta (Mr. Beale), who gave a most blatant exhibition of rehearsing his electioneering speech, attempted to prove several things, but, in fact, he only succeeded in proving what we already know, namely, that politically he is very naive and that as a logician he is most unconvincing. .He boldly asserted that all the social reforms that have been introduced in the Parliament had their genesis in the political parties that are at present in Opposition.

Mr Beale - Rubbish !

Mr HAYLEN - I am just trying to prove that the honorable member's assertions were nothing more than mere rubbish, and it is of no use for him to endeavour to circumvent me. He referred to the dark ages of federal politics in a desperate effort to prove that widows' pensions, and many of the other benefits at present enjoyed by the workers, were introduced by the political forebears of the present Opposition parties when they were in office. In fact, he even asserted that all those reforms were originated by Liberal administrations. Even if we conceded that, we should have to qualify our acceptance of that .assertion by pointing out that those reforms were only introduced after pressure had been brought to bear by the Australian Labour party. However, after claiming all the political credit for the introduction of social services, the honorable member indulged, most inconsistently, in a terrific denunciation of all social benefits. The final result of social betterment plans, he said, was that everybody would be leaning on the Government. Of course, that statement completely repudiated the previous argument which he had laboriously built up, after the fashion of lawyers, that his political predecessors were responsible for the introduction of a formidable list of social reforms. He had claimed that those predecessors had been "good fellows ". Although they had amassed great profits, they had not, he stressed, forgotten the people, and while building up their fortunes they had found the time to introduce legislation for social betterment. But then, as I have pointed out, he completely abandoned that argument, by asserting that social services are creating a nation of " leaners People, he said, would never again fend for themselves; they would look to the Government. The essential thing, he argued, was that people should be encouraged to go and dig their fortune out for themselves. Of course, that argument is all right for the honorable member personally, because he has been able, apparently, to dig out some sort of fortune for himself - although he has not yet. attained the status of King's Counsel. However, I hope that it falls to him eventually. But what about those who are held down by the force of numbers, and are not able to dig out their own fortunes ? All this talk, this continual prating by members of the Opposition, of free enterprise leaves out of account those who are unable to amass a fortune.

I thought that the contribution of the honorable member for Parramatta was one of the poorest that he has yet made. Obviously, he had one eye on the possible effects of his speech on the people of Parramatta - not so much on the people of Northmead, however ! I am sure that his utterance will receive many echoes from his supporters in Parramatta, who will heartily agree with him that " There must be no leaners ". In other words, every one must be made to depend completely on himself! I should like to be at the back of the hall during one of his election meetings in Parramatta when he puts that over so that I could remind the audience of the observation of the Bishop of Chelmsford that if you overburden the old carthorse too much, you run the risk of his kicking the cart to pieces. The people will no longer be misled by the recital of the wonderful enactments of the conservatives of 1908 or thereabouts, who increased oldage pensions by 2s. 6d., or some such figure.

Coming now to the honorable member for Fawkner (Mr. Holt), I shall deal with his zealous advocacy of free enterprise. Incidentally, the catchcry used to be " private enterprise ", but " free enterprise " is a happier combination of words, if only because it is a little more confusing. After all, there is nothing so confusing as " free " enterprise ! Try to start something in opposition to the vested interests. Begin some enterprise, say, in competition with the Broken Hill

Proprietary Company Limited, and see how free is " free " enterprise. See what happens to your enterprise, your finance, and even to your family, the moment you begin to interfere with some organized racket which is dignified with the term " cartel " or " monopoly ". It is sheer nonsense to speak of " free enterprise ". The honorable member got up and said, in effect, "Life should be a glorious adventure. "We do not want social benefits ". Of course, he does not ; he is a successful barrister, and, I should say, is beyond worrying about the future. So, in that woolly atmosphere of comfort in which he finds himself, he says that life should be an adventure; that free enterprise enables the stalwart, sturdy, rugged individual to go out and do great things. Therefore, he contended, social enterprise is dangerous 'because it takes away the sensation of struggle. And he invoiced that stupid phrase : " Life for the young man should be a bold and glowing adventure ". He said the same thing some years ago, and he repeated it again only a few nights ago. Of course, life for the average young Australian was a bold and glowing adventure - until he was entangled in the depression; and then even his gallant adventurousness did not enable him to finish up as the chairman of directors of some capitalist aggregation! No; he finished up in a "Happy Valley" at La Perouse or "Waterloo. It is clear that the suggestion of a "bold and glowing adventure " is just so much economic nonsense.

Another queer anomaly which we encounter in the utterances of members of the Liberal party is the distinction that they draw between cause and effect, between profession and performance. One member of that party makes a rugged speech in defence of free enterprise, whilst another advocates the introduction of improved social services, and, perhaps, even claims that all our social benefits were introduced by the Liberal party. Of course, its claim to have introduced our present social services is nothing more than lying propaganda. In endeavouring to steal the programme of Labour it bends over backwards. It claims that it will provide better social services, more generous treatment for the mothers of families, endowment for the first child of families, and so on. There is simply nothing underneath. They are not sincere about anything. Their policy is completely changed. They used to express their belief in the following terms: - "A man in business is entitled to his profit. The worker must go hungry to his task. If the luck of the draw favours him, and he is a good little boy, he will be recommended to the right clubs, and by the time he is 50, he will be one of us ". Now there are two stories. One is that which they tell in this chamber; the other is the Liberal party propaganda which is published in the newspapers. That propaganda is not of the kind that one would expect from a Liberal party, but members of that party are trying to " sell " themselves on any subject whatever. If the Labour Government has introduced a useful change or reform, honorable members opposite try, by means of advertisements, slides and phoney drama over the air, to outsell the Labour Government. Is it any wonder that the Prime Minister, with that sense of dignity which he possesses, decides that in this budget, as in the previous budget, he will not match the Opposition in terms of bribery, or attempt to seduce the electors by coloured photographs? One honorable member opposite tells the electors, "All these things are yours if you will return us to office ". But then, another Opposition speaker spoils the story, as the honorable member for Wentworth (Mr. Harrison) has done.

Last night, I was stretched on a bed of pain, but I happened to be listening to the broadcast of the debate. After I had heard the honorable member I came to the conclusion that everything is comparative. He possesses an entertaining if strident voice - but that is all. The announcer in the broadcasting box informed me that the speaker was Mr. Harrison, the honorable member for Wentworth, and added that the honorable gentleman was speaking on the budget. The honorable member made a passing reference to the budget, but he also made some references to blood. It was a blood and mud speech. He declared, " Coal is the life-blood of the nation ". Shortly afterwards, he asserted, " Steel is the life-blood of the nation ". He added, thoughtfully, " Roads are the arterial lifeblood of the nation ". I thereupon came to the conclusion that the honorable member must be the life-blood of the Liberal party. That thought led me to a further conclusion, that it is no wonder that a former member for Parramatta, Sir Frederick Stewart, said that it is not worth 2d. a gallon.

The honorable member also made a statement about full employment. He may challenge me if I am misinterpreting his views on this matter, but I think that I am correct. The honorable gentleman launched an attack in echelon on full employment. He will know what I mean by that. He said that with an increase of production by 5 per cent., full employment would do this country no good. In other words, the honorable member considers that full employment on those terms would do Australia no good. I was reminded immediately of the seductive voice of Professor Hytten, who sang from the portals of the Bank of New South Wales the same song that every worker and every representative of the Labour party knows. The theme is " Let us get a pool of unemployment ". I wrote a pamphlet upon that subject and,' unfortunately for the honorable, member for Wentworth, copies of it have deluged his electorate. I hope that the pamphlet will have some impact upon his constituents, although I realize that it certainly has not had any impact upon the honorable member. One speaker for the Opposition says that socialism in Great Britain is killing that country. Another Opposition speaker says, "We must not be ' leaners '. All of us must be "rugged individuals". However, the honorable member for Wentworth, who, as the deputy leader of the Liberal party, is a man of special distinction in his own field, says that, at the best, full employment is no good to this country. He echoed the words of Professor Hytten, who said that the proper economy was the economy with 5 per cent to 6 per cent, of unemployment. " Big business " in the United States of America to-day is experimenting in. order to ascertain whether such a policy is practicable, and whether a reservoir of unemployment is the answer to its problems. Economists of various political opinions are debating whether full employment is practicable. The Labour party is the protagonist which always asserts that full employment is practicable. Indeed, it is the No. 1 point of our policy.

The honorable member for Wentworth then told a little story about production. He knows that, at the present time, mere statistics do not mean anything. Money has inflated values, and statistics to-day do not mean the simple arithmetic that they have meant in the past. The honorable member then resumed his attack on full employment. He found himself in concert with a dulcet voice of Professor Hytten from the portico of the Bank of New South Wales.

Mr HARRISON (WENTWORTH, NEW SOUTH WALES) - The honorable gentleman was certainly stretched on a bed of pain last night.

Mr HAYLEN - I was, and my distress was aggravated by the fact that I was listening to the speech of the honorable member. As I have always been a martyr to the cause of Labour, I heard the honorable member's speech from beginning to end. After that, I became unconscious for a little while.

The honorable member worked out all the old hatreds of the worker and the coalminer and then, to my consternation, this man, who had been talking like a tycoon about full employment, suddenly proceeded to ride the socialist tiger up and down this chamber. He cursed the socialists with bell, book and candle and incantation. When he had wearied of that, he asked us dramatically, "Who put the soldiers to work in the coal mines \ ". We read the same question in the Tribune every week. Of course, the publicists who have been employed by the Liberal party have put honorable members opposite offkey so much that they can no longer tell the old standard story. They leap, as it were, from crag to crag, one moment fulminating against the workers and the next moment pumping Communist slogans into us. When they say that we must get more production from the worker, they return to the old story. No matter what kind of promises they make in their published advertisements, they are still the old tories working for their pound of flesh.

Sitting suspended from 5.57 to 8 p.m.

Mr HAYLEN - Prior to the suspension of the sitting, I was making some remarks about the speech of the honorable member for Wentworth, who had remarked that socialism would be an issue at the forthcoming federal election. Apparently, he has received instructions to that effect. The honorable member commented on free enterprise, which is simply ordinary capitalism with a face lift. It is geared for profit, and knows no patriotism and no sensitivity to national interests. Thus, we have demands for petrol from behind the Iron Curtain. It is not the socialists who want the petrol, but the believers in free enterprise. The same interests are trying to get newsprint from Russia. I am reliably informed that 5,000 tons of newsprint is on its way now from behind the Iron Curtain. This newsprint will be used by magnates of the capitalist press, who, with their tongues in their cheeks, will publish criticism of the Communist regime. They will also publish stories issued by Investia and Pravda, the organs of the Communist party. The interests represented by honorable members opposite are crying for trade with Japan, careless of everything that has happened in the past. They pay lip service to democracy, but they cry aloud for a Japanese peace treaty so that trade may be resumed. Questions are directed to the Minister for External Affairs (Dr. Evatt) asking him when it is proposed to sign a peace treaty with Japan, so that trade may be resumed with that country. The same interests &re prepared to condemn what they call socialism, and to attack the welfare state, offering in its place a system that stands condemned by its own ineptitude. That system stands for profit, and profit only.

The honorable member for Wentworth let the cat out of the bag when he cried for production and more production. He said that if his party was returned to power, civil servants would be sacked. Perhaps he did not make the statement outright, but he made it inferentially, because he said that civil servants were not producers. He said, in effect, that if or when the tories and reactionaries were returned to power they would have a look at the towering edifice of the Public Service. His idea is to dismiss public servants in order to get a pool of unemployed for the benefit of free enterprise. This pool is to be created at the expense of the public servants who, in the main, have served their country well, particularly during the war. However, according to the honorable member for Wentworth, the axe is waiting for them. This deputy leader of the tories has said so.

Mr Harrison - What absolute nonsense.

Mr HAYLEN - The honorable gentleman's suggestion is that unemployment should be caused so as to make the workers humble. Thus, he persistently attacks the Labour Government in Britain on the ground that it is a socialist government. As I have pointed out earlier, he is of the same opinion as Professor Hytten, who has advocated an unemployment pool o'f from 5 per cent, to 6 per cent.

The honorable member for Wentworth went on to say that the Government had thrown the troops into the coal-fields. We can read that sort of thing in the Tribune. However, what we did was to bring the lights back to the cities, and to give the housewives gas for their cooking stoves. Seeing that we were opposed by a political conspiracy, we broke no rule of our party when we put the troops into the coal-field's. The honorable member for Wentworth, in criticizing the Government for what it did, merely voiced the familiar Communist propaganda. Every one with a sense of decency and patriotism cheered the Government to the echo for what it did during the coal strike, but the honorable member for Wentworth can do no more than mouth a few outworn Communist slogans such as, " They threw the troops into the coal-fields ". Of course, no one believes him, and I do not really think that he believes himself. The honorable member then said that tens of thousands of acres of land were going out of production, because the farmers did not find it profitable to cultivate them owing to mounting costs.

Mr Harrison - I said they were going but of production because land-owners could not get essential materials.

Mr HAYLEN - Only recently a pastoral company approached the High Court for an order to restrain the authorities from cutting up its land for closer settlement. Not long ago, a tory premier in South Australia had to take action to tear away from the squatters land upon which to settle ex-servicemen. "What annoys the honorable member for Wentworth is the fact that land is getting into the possession of small holders who have the will and the strength to work it, and have a sympathetic government behind them to offer assistance. Members of the Opposition talk about a balanced economy, but the system they support is the worst example of an unbalanced economy. As the Bishop of Chelmsford has said, they want to drive the worker as one might drive an old horse which, if pressed too hard, will either fall down or kick the cart to pieces.

The final absurdity of the speech of the honorable member for Wentworth was his complaint about zoning. He said that, under the zoning system, the householder had no choice. He had to be content with the same milkman and the same baker. Then, in his exuberance, he made a mistake. He said that the milk had dust in it, and that the bread was bad. In my innocence, I thought that the milk and the bread were produced under the system of free enterprise. I know that that system operates in Strathfield where I live, and free enterprise there is trying to cash in on the present situation. As a matter of fact, free enterprise has proved to be ineffective. It bails out when things get tough, and crawls to the government. That was the complaint of President Roosevelt. He told the champions of free enterprise that, once the danger was over, they came crawling out of their burrows, but that should danger arise again they would once more ask the government to take over. Free enterprise is not stable; it is opportunistic. It wants to have its own way when times are good, but in time of danger it asks the socialist state to take charge.

I now propose to refer to the attacks that have been made in this Parliament on Labour members, including myself. Others who have been subjected to such attacks are the honorable member for Martin (Mr. Daly), the Minister for Transport (Mr. Ward) and an honorable senator. These criticisms have been a little more severe than those normally experienced in Parliament, and therefore one is amused, if at the same time distressed, to see the Opposition hoist with its own petard when, as at present, it is labouring under a great disability in the selection of its election candidates. Unbelievable things have happened to it. It is advertising for public relations officers and desire to obtain the services of young men with some flair for writing who will prepare the speeches of members of Parliament and be capable of preparing summaries for broadcasting and for the local newspapers. That shows how far the party has come down the scale in selecting its candidates. We find that things are considerably worse in the new electorate of Grayndler, even than that suggests. The party selected a man named Fryer, who had been prosecuted for wearing an air force uniform illegally. He has since been deposed and another man has been selected in his place, but the tories should have examined the capabilities and the previous conduct of their prospective candidates more closely so that such things could not have happened. This unfortunate man Fryer admitted that he had worn an air force uniform, and, when asked where he obtained it, he said that the shorts had been bought in a shop at Bowral, the shirt had been obtained when he was in the military signallers in 1932 and the socks when he was a scoutmaster at Double Bay, in the electorate represented by the honorable member for Wentworth. Another candidate for selection by the Liberal party was Mr. Percy McDonald. He was not selected. He was destined not to serve in this Parliament because His Majesty decided 'that he should serve in another place. Dealing with his appearance in a court case, Truth, of the 26th June, 1949, reported -

Perce, completely at his ease in a role that is far from being unfamiliar to him, told the jury that ten years ago he came out of Parramatta Prison after having_ received a six months' sentence. A proposition was put to him by a Communist representative-

Again, we see evidence of the Opposition's affiliations! The report proceeded - that he should set fire to certain bushlands in Victoria, and that he be paid by results. He rejected the proposition. '

Now I come to the Literal party's campaign director in the reconstructed electorate of Martin, which will be contested by the honorable member for West Sydney (Mr. O'Connor). We find that Mr. Dewley, disowned temporarily by the Liberals, but uproariously approved of by the local Liberal supporters because he donates £5 for a cup when the Labourite, who lives upon his salary, can give only 10s. 6d., had a little trouble with adulterated mincemeat in 1947. He was dealt with in due course and was .fined £2 with 8s. costs. Later he had more serious trouble over his income tax and was fined heavily. At one time, Mr. Treatt, the Leader of the Liberal party in New South Wales, suggested that the man should be removed from the party and I think that that happened. The point of my comment is that some of those men are still heroes amongst the Liberals.

I warn the Liberals, probably without avail, to "keep it clean". They should make sure of their candidates. What sort of a statesman would be the man who got his socks at Double Bay or the man who was fined for adulterating mincemeat? Apparently the latter, feeling eager to try his strength after his offence with the mincemeat, took on the Commissioner of Taxation with the result that I have mentioned.

Mr Rankin - The honorable member would adulterate the dead.

Mr HAYLEN - The honorable member for Bendigo interjects in his usual . whimsical fashion, but if I were a past-master at adulterating the dead I should have dealt with him long since. I warn honorable members opposite that criticisms of members of Parliament who are attempting to do the job for which they, were elected often rebound. The Liberals are suffering to-day because of the difficulties that have befallen their candidates. Their troubles give point to the old adage that " those who fly with the crows are likely to be shot ". There are others whom I could mention, but my time is limited and I cannot refer to all of them. There is a Mr. W. C. Wentworth, "who was told only a few days ago by a magistrate in Sydney that he was such a reckless driver that he should not hold a motor drivers' licence. Yet he plans to come here to guide our deliberations concerning, for example, the expenditure of £500,000 a year for the promotion of road safety. What a tragedy that would be! There was another gentleman living in the salubrious atmosphere of Warringah, or the electorate to be called Mackellar, who was thinking of contesting the Liberal selection. He was the "pea", I understand, until somebody discovered that he was involved in a little trouble over key money - a small charge of £500 to a returned soldier's wife who was trying to get a flat. I say these things, without bitterness, because they must be said. Furthermore, it is only just that I should do so after what we on this side of the chamber have suffered.

Mr Rankin Mr. Rankin interjecting,

Mr HAYLEN - This bottle-scarred warrior is annoying me for the moment, but I shall ignore him. These things are important. I conclude on the note that brought me to my feet-

The DEPUTY CHAIRMAN.- Order ! The honorable member's time has expired.

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