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Wednesday, 28 September 1904


Mr SPEAKER - Will the honorable member kindly take his seat? Not even on a motion for the adjournment of the House is it permissible to refer to a debate pending.


Sir William Lyne - I am not referring to the debate.-


Mr SPEAKER - The honorable member is expressly referring to the remarks of the honorable and learned member for Bendigo, and under the Standing Orders he must not refer to any part of a debate pending. If' the honorable member desires to refer to any other matter he may do so.


Sir William Lyne - What I wanted to refer to was the origin of a statement I made a few minutes ago. The leader of the Government introduced the question of his financial action in New South Wales ; I was not responsible-


Mr SPEAKER -Will the honorable member take his seat? The question to which the honorable member now refers is distinctly a part of the debate which has just been adjourned. -That question has been dealt with in the course of the debate by several honorable member's, and is certainly not now open to discussion.


Sir William Lyne - May I ask whether, when the House meets to-morrow, I shall have an opportunity to make a personal explanation' in view of the attack on' me tonight by the honorable and learned member for Bendigo.


Mr SPEAKER - On the question of personal explanations, it may be as well for me to say at once, that a personal explanation in relation to what somebody else has said, is not in order. A personal explanation can only be made concerning some matter with which an Honorable member himself has dealt, and concerning which he himself has been misunderstood. A personal explanation cannot be allowed as a reply to what some other honorable member has said in the course of the debate. H the honorable member desires to- make a personal explanation' concerning a matte* with which he himself has dealt, and has been misunderstood, he may do so.


Sir William Lyne - That is good enough for me.

Mr. LONSDALE(New England).When speaking the other night I made the statement that the Denton Hat Mills were fully employed, and that statement was challenged. I then said I would produce the letters on which I based my statement, and these letters are in my hand now. The first is from Mr. Edward Shaw, the manager of the Denton Hat Mills, to a customer on the 20th July, 1904, asfollows : -

We duly received your letter of the 21st inst. asking us to furnish you with a set of samples of Victorian made hats. We should be very pleased to do so if wesaw our way to give execution to any orders with which you might favour us, but our hands are at present so full that we are afraid in the meantime to undertake new business lest it should result in disappointment through our inability to give delivery. In the hope that in some future time we may have the pleasure of doing business with you, we are.

That bears out my statement that these mills have not suffered by the reduction of the Tariff.


Mr Mauger - That letter was written two months ago.







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