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MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE—STATES GRANTS (PRIMARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION ASSISTANCE) BILL 2000

Message No. 524, 7 December 2000, from the Senate was reported returning the States Grants (Primary and Secondary Education Assistance) Bill 2000 with amendments.

Ordered—That the amendments be considered forthwith.

Dr Kemp (Minister for Education, Training and Youth Affairs) moved—That the amendments be considered together and one question be put on the amendments.

Debate ensued.

Mr Lee addressing the House—

Closure

Mr Ronaldson (Chief Government Whip) moved—That the question be now put.

Question—That the question be now put—put.


The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 74

Mr AbbottMr EntschMr LindsayMr Scott
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FaheyMr LloydMr Secker
Mr AnthonyMr FischerMr McArthur*Mr Slipper
Fran BaileyMr Forrest*Mr I. E. MacfarlaneMr Somlyay
Mr BairdMrs GallusMrs MayDr Southcott
Mr BarresiMs GambaroMr MooreDr Stone
Mr BartlettMrs GashMrs MoylanMrs Sullivan
Mr BillsonMr GeorgiouMr NairnMr C. P. Thompson
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HaaseMr NehlMr A. P. Thomson
Ms J. I. BishopMr HardgraveDr NelsonMr Truss
Mr BroughMr HawkerMr NevilleMr Tuckey
Mr CadmanMr HockeyMr NugentMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CameronMrs HullMr ProsserMr Wakelin
Mr CausleyMr JullMr PyneDr Washer
Mr CharlesMr KatterMr ReithMr Williams
Mr CostelloJackie KellyMr RonaldsonDr Wooldridge
Mr DownerDr KempMr RuddockMs Worth
Mrs DraperMr LawlerMr St Clair
Mrs ElsonMr LiebermanMr Schultz

NOES, 63

Mr AdamsMr M. J. FergusonMr LeeMr Quick
Mr AndrenMr FitzgibbonMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr BevisMs GerickMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BreretonMr GibbonsMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Ms BurkeMs GillardMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr ByrneMr GriffinMr McLeayMr Sciacca
Ms CorcoranMs HallMr McMullanMr Sercombe*
Mr CoxMr HattonDr MartinMr Sidebottom
Mr CreanMs HoareMr MelhamMr Smith
Mrs CrosioMr HorneMr MorrisMr Snowdon
Mr DanbyMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Swan
Mr EdwardsMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Tanner
Ms EllisMs KernotMr O'ConnorMr K. J. Thomson
Mr EmersonMr KerrMr O'KeefeMr Wilkie
Mr M. J. EvansMr LathamMs PlibersekMr Zahra
Mr L. D. T. FergusonDr LawrenceMr Price

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr Howard Mr Beazley

Mr M. A. J. Vaile Ms O'Byrne

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.


And the question—That the amendments be considered together and one question be put—being accordingly put—

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 75

Mr AbbottMrs ElsonMr LiebermanMr Schultz
Mr AndersonMr EntschMr LindsayMr Scott
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FaheyMr LloydMr Secker
Mr AnthonyMr FischerMr McArthur*Mr Slipper
Fran BaileyMr Forrest*Mr I. E. MacfarlaneMr Somlyay
Mr BairdMrs GallusMrs MayDr Southcott
Mr BarresiMs GambaroMr MooreDr Stone
Mr BartlettMrs GashMrs MoylanMrs Sullivan
Mr BillsonMr GeorgiouMr NairnMr C. P. Thompson
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HaaseMr NehlMr A. P. Thomson
Ms J. I. BishopMr HardgraveDr NelsonMr Truss
Mr BroughMr HawkerMr NevilleMr Tuckey
Mr CadmanMr HockeyMr NugentMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CameronMrs HullMr ProsserMr Wakelin
Mr CausleyMr JullMr PyneDr Washer
Mr CharlesMr KatterMr ReithMr Williams
Mr CostelloJackie KellyMr RonaldsonDr Wooldridge
Mr DownerDr KempMr RuddockMs Worth
Mrs DraperMr LawlerMr St Clair

NOES, 63

Mr AdamsMr M. J. FergusonMr LeeMr Quick
Mr AndrenMr FitzgibbonMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr BevisMs GerickMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BreretonMr GibbonsMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Ms BurkeMs GillardMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr ByrneMr GriffinMr McLeayMr Sciacca
Ms CorcoranMs HallMr McMullanMr Sercombe*
Mr CoxMr HattonDr MartinMr Sidebottom
Mr CreanMs HoareMr MelhamMr Smith
Mrs CrosioMr HorneMr MorrisMr Snowdon
Mr DanbyMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Swan
Mr EdwardsMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Tanner
Ms EllisMs KernotMr O'ConnorMr K. J. Thomson
Mr EmersonMr KerrMr O'KeefeMr Wilkie
Mr M. J. EvansMr LathamMs PlibersekMr Zahra
Mr L. D. T. FergusonDr LawrenceMr Price

* Tellers


Pairs

Mr Howard Mr Beazley

Mr M. A. J. Vaile Ms O'Byrne

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

Dr Kemp moved—That the amendments be disagreed to.

Debate ensued.

Mr Lee addressing the House—

Closure

Dr Kemp moved—That the question be now put.

Question—That the question be now put—put.

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 76

Mr AbbottMrs ElsonMr LiebermanMr St Clair
Mr AndersonMr EntschMr LindsayMr Schultz
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FaheyMr LloydMr Scott
Mr AnthonyMr FischerMr McArthur*Mr Secker
Fran BaileyMr Forrest*Mr I. E. MacfarlaneMr Slipper
Mr BairdMrs GallusMr McGauranMr Somlyay
Mr BarresiMs GambaroMrs MayDr Southcott
Mr BartlettMrs GashMr MooreDr Stone
Mr BillsonMr GeorgiouMrs MoylanMrs Sullivan
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HaaseMr NairnMr C. P. Thompson
Ms J. I. BishopMr HardgraveMr NehlMr A. P. Thomson
Mr BroughMr HawkerDr NelsonMr Truss
Mr CadmanMr HockeyMr NevilleMr Tuckey
Mr CameronMrs HullMr NugentMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CausleyMr JullMr ProsserMr Wakelin
Mr CharlesMr KatterMr PyneDr Washer
Mr CostelloJackie KellyMr ReithMr Williams
Mr DownerDr KempMr RonaldsonDr Wooldridge
Mrs DraperMr LawlerMr RuddockMs Worth

NOES, 63

Mr AdamsMr M. J. FergusonMr LeeMr Quick
Mr AndrenMr FitzgibbonMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr BevisMs GerickMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BreretonMr GibbonsMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Ms BurkeMs GillardMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr ByrneMr GriffinMr McLeayMr Sciacca
Ms CorcoranMs HallMr McMullanMr Sercombe*
Mr CoxMr HattonDr MartinMr Sidebottom
Mr CreanMs HoareMr MelhamMr Smith
Mrs CrosioMr HorneMr MorrisMr Snowdon
Mr DanbyMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Swan
Mr EdwardsMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Tanner
Ms EllisMs KernotMr O'ConnorMr K. J. Thomson
Mr EmersonMr KerrMr O'KeefeMr Wilkie
Mr M. J. EvansMr LathamMs PlibersekMr Zahra
Mr L. D. T. FergusonDr LawrenceMr Price

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr Howard Mr Beazley

Mr M. A. J. Vaile Ms O'Byrne

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

And the question—That the amendments be disagreed to—being accordingly put—

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 77

Mr AbbottMr EntschMr LindsayMr Scott
Mr AndersonMr FaheyMr LloydMr Secker
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FischerMr McArthur*Mr Slipper
Mr AnthonyMr Forrest*Mr I. E. MacfarlaneMr Somlyay
Fran BaileyMrs GallusMr McGauranDr Southcott
Mr BairdMs GambaroMrs MayDr Stone
Mr BarresiMrs GashMr MooreMrs Sullivan
Mr BartlettMr GeorgiouMrs MoylanMr C. P. Thompson
Mr BillsonMr HaaseMr NairnMr A. P. Thomson
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HardgraveMr NehlMr Truss
Ms J. I. BishopMr HawkerDr NelsonMr Tuckey
Mr BroughMr HockeyMr NevilleMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CadmanMr HowardMr NugentMr Wakelin
Mr CameronMrs HullMr ProsserDr Washer
Mr CausleyMr JullMr PyneMr Williams
Mr CharlesMr KatterMr ReithDr Wooldridge
Mr CostelloJackie KellyMr RonaldsonMs Worth
Mr DownerDr KempMr Ruddock
Mrs DraperMr LawlerMr St Clair
Mrs ElsonMr LiebermanMr Schultz

NOES, 64

Mr AdamsMr L. D. T. FergusonDr LawrenceMr Price
Mr AndrenMr M. J. FergusonMr LeeMr Quick
Mr BeazleyMr FitzgibbonMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr BevisMs GerickMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BreretonMr GibbonsMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Ms BurkeMs GillardMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr ByrneMr GriffinMr McLeayMr Sciacca
Ms CorcoranMs HallMr McMullanMr Sercombe*
Mr CoxMr HattonDr MartinMr Sidebottom
Mr CreanMs HoareMr MelhamMr Smith
Mrs CrosioMr HorneMr MorrisMr Snowdon
Mr DanbyMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Swan
Mr EdwardsMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Tanner
Ms EllisMs KernotMr O'ConnorMr K. J. Thomson
Mr EmersonMr KerrMr O'KeefeMr Wilkie
Mr M. J. EvansMr LathamMs PlibersekMr Zahra

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr M. A. J. Vaile Ms O'Byrne

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.


Suspension of standing and sessional orders

Mr Reith (Leader of the House) moved—That so much of the standing and sessional orders be suspended as would prevent the commencement of question time today until the conclusion of consideration of the Senate amendments to this Bill.

Mr Lee addressing the House—

Closure

Mr Reith moved—That the question be now put.

Question—That the question be now put—put.

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 78

Mr AbbottMr EntschMr LiebermanMr Schultz
Mr AndersonMr FaheyMr LindsayMr Scott
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FischerMr LloydMr Secker
Mr AnthonyMr Forrest*Mr McArthur*Mr Slipper
Fran BaileyMrs GallusMr I. E. MacfarlaneMr Somlyay
Mr BairdMs GambaroMr McGauranDr Southcott
Mr BarresiMrs GashMrs MayDr Stone
Mr BartlettMr GeorgiouMr MooreMrs Sullivan
Mr BillsonMr HaaseMrs MoylanMr C. P. Thompson
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HardgraveMr NairnMr A. P. Thomson
Ms J. I. BishopMr HawkerMr NehlMr Truss
Mr BroughMr HockeyDr NelsonMr Tuckey
Mr CadmanMr HowardMr NevilleMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CameronMrs HullMr NugentMr Wakelin
Mr CausleyMr JullMr ProsserDr Washer
Mr CharlesMr KatterMr PyneMr Williams
Mr CostelloMrs D. M. KellyMr ReithDr Wooldridge
Mr DownerJackie KellyMr RonaldsonMs Worth
Mrs DraperDr KempMr Ruddock
Mrs ElsonMr LawlerMr St Clair

NOES, 64

Mr AdamsMr L. D. T. FergusonDr LawrenceMr Price
Mr AndrenMr M. J. FergusonMr LeeMr Quick
Mr BeazleyMr FitzgibbonMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr BevisMs GerickMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BreretonMr GibbonsMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Ms BurkeMs GillardMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr ByrneMr GriffinMr McLeayMr Sciacca
Ms CorcoranMs HallMr McMullanMr Sercombe*
Mr CoxMr HattonDr MartinMr Sidebottom
Mr CreanMs HoareMr MelhamMr Smith
Mrs CrosioMr HorneMr MorrisMr Snowdon
Mr DanbyMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Swan
Mr EdwardsMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Tanner
Ms EllisMs KernotMr O'ConnorMr K. J. Thomson
Mr EmersonMr KerrMr O'KeefeMr Wilkie
Mr M. J. EvansMr LathamMs PlibersekMr Zahra

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr M. A. J. Vaile Ms O'Byrne

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

And the question—That the motion for the suspension of standing and sessional orders be agreed to—being accordingly put—

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 78

Mr AbbottMr EntschMr LiebermanMr Schultz
Mr AndersonMr FaheyMr LindsayMr Scott
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FischerMr LloydMr Secker
Mr AnthonyMr Forrest*Mr McArthur*Mr Slipper
Fran BaileyMrs GallusMr I. E. MacfarlaneMr Somlyay
Mr BairdMs GambaroMr McGauranDr Southcott
Mr BarresiMrs GashMrs MayDr Stone
Mr BartlettMr GeorgiouMr MooreMrs Sullivan
Mr BillsonMr HaaseMrs MoylanMr C. P. Thompson
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HardgraveMr NairnMr A. P. Thomson
Ms J. I. BishopMr HawkerMr NehlMr Truss
Mr BroughMr HockeyDr NelsonMr Tuckey
Mr CadmanMr HowardMr NevilleMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CameronMrs HullMr NugentMr Wakelin
Mr CausleyMr JullMr ProsserDr Washer
Mr CharlesMr KatterMr PyneMr Williams
Mr CostelloMrs D. M. KellyMr ReithDr Wooldridge
Mr DownerJackie KellyMr RonaldsonMs Worth
Mrs DraperDr KempMr Ruddock
Mrs ElsonMr LawlerMr St Clair

NOES, 64

Mr AdamsMr L. D. T. FergusonDr LawrenceMr Price
Mr AndrenMr M. J. FergusonMr LeeMr Quick
Mr BeazleyMr FitzgibbonMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr BevisMs GerickMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BreretonMr GibbonsMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Ms BurkeMs GillardMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr ByrneMr GriffinMr McLeayMr Sciacca
Ms CorcoranMs HallMr McMullanMr Sercombe*
Mr CoxMr HattonDr MartinMr Sidebottom
Mr CreanMs HoareMr MelhamMr Smith
Mrs CrosioMr HorneMr MorrisMr Snowdon
Mr DanbyMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Swan
Mr EdwardsMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Tanner
Ms EllisMs KernotMr O'ConnorMr K. J. Thomson
Mr EmersonMr KerrMr O'KeefeMr Wilkie
Mr M. J. EvansMr LathamMs PlibersekMr Zahra

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr M. A. J. Vaile Ms O'Byrne

And so it was resolved in the affirmative by an absolute majority.

Dr Kemp presented reasons, which were circulated, and are as follows:

Reasons of the House of Representatives for disagreeing to the amendments of the Senate

Senate Amendment 1

This amendment seeks to insert an `object of the Act'. This amendment is unnecessary because there is already a description on the front of the Bill which states that "This is a Bill for an Act to grant financial assistance to the States for 2001 to 2004 for primary and secondary education, and for related purposes". This description has been provided on the preceding legislation and is considered sufficient. Inserting an `object of the Act' does not enhance the operation of the Bill. In addition, the subject matter of the Bill as it currently stands has been the subject of extensive consultations with all State and non-government education authorities, peak bodies and other major stakeholders. The need for a clause of this type has never been raised by any of these organisations during consultations. There has been no correspondingly extensive consultation with the education sector on the proposed amendment.

Accordingly, the House of Representatives does not accept this amendment.

Senate Amendments 2, 11, 12, 13, 14, 19 and 20

These amendments make the 61 non-government schools currently funded at category 1 under the Education Resources Index (ERI) system funding maintained rather than allowing them to receive additional funding under the
new socio-economic status (SES) arrangements where their SES score indicates they should receive a higher level of funding.

These amendments are unfair and discriminatory. They arbitrarily freeze 61 non-government schools at their 2000 funding levels based on their ERI funding category, when the ERI system is widely acknowledged to be flawed. Those schools are denied funding under the same arrangements as all other non-government schools provided for under the Bill. There are also technical flaws in their drafting which may prevent them from having their intended effect so that no funding could be paid to the listed schools, for example, clauses 67 to 70 of the Bill do not refer to new clause 64A.

Accordingly, the House of Representatives does not accept these amendments.

Senate Amendment 3

This amendment proposes to add to the accountability requirements for grants for government schools the requirement that, as a condition of funding, States must report on their school and teacher registration criteria through the national report on the outcomes of schooling. Given that Commonwealth funding for new non-government schools is contingent on registration of schools by the States, and in view of the variety of approaches to registration of schools and teachers, the amendment calls for publication of State registration criteria in the national report on schooling.

The amendment combines two related but distinct issues, registration of non-government schools and registration of teachers. Although Commonwealth funding for non-government schools requires that they be registered, such registration is a matter for State authorities, as is teacher registration. It is not considered appropriate that these matters be part of the reporting and accountability provisions of Commonwealth legislation.

Furthermore, it is not appropriate that funding intended for government schools be made conditional upon State policies and practices relating to non-government schools.

Accordingly, the House of Representatives does not accept this amendment.

Senate Amendments 4 and 5

These amendments are unnecessary. The Financial Questionnaire to which the amendments refer has been and will continue to be required under the funding agreement between the Commonwealth, School Systems, and independent schools. Tying Financial Questionnaire provision to the Financial Accountability Certificate would create difficulties for schools and systems, requiring the provision of financial questionnaire, accountability and census data all within a four month period annually, and would similarly create difficulties for the Department in effectively managing these collections, and thus in maintaining the high levels of accountability to which the non-government sector is subject.

Accordingly, the House of Representatives does not accept these amendments.


Senate Amendments 6, 9 and 17

These amendments propose to remove the legislative basis for the Enrolment Benchmark Adjustment (EBA). Cost shifting between levels of governments in this area is a serious issue as has been acknowledged by all State Education Ministers. The proposed amendments seek to simply abolish the EBA without paying any attention to the underlying cost shifting issues. A committee established by the State Education Ministers is to report on alternatives to the EBA but have not done so to date.

Accordingly, the House of Representatives does not accept these amendments.

Senate Amendment 7

This amendment applies where a capital grant to a State is reduced following a decision by the Minister to withhold a grant or to require the State to repay a grant, for example, because of a breach of the capital recognition conditions in the Commonwealth-State agreement. The amendment requires the Minister to publish on the Internet details of the State's failure and the capital funds involved.

The amendment is unworkable. The process of negotiating whether Commonwealth recognition requirements have been met by a State is generally a protracted one often extending over several months. Grant payments can be delayed during this process but usually this would not be the result of a formal decision being made to return payments because of a breach. Rather payments would be withheld pending the outcome of negotiations. Where a grant is reduced, States are given notice and have an opportunity to take corrective action. Publishing details of these actions on the Internet would be detrimental to co-operative Commonwealth-State relations.

Accordingly, the House of Representatives does not accept this amendment.

Senate Amendment 8

This amendment removes the discretion from the Minister to decide whether or not to remove a school's name from the list of non-government schools kept under the legislation where the school ceases to have State or Territory registration or starts to be conducted for profit.

The amendment requires mandatory removal from the list of funded schools of a non-government school losing State or Territory registration or becoming conducted for profit. This imposes an inflexible, unfair and unnecessary response on the Minister. Where the school is able to remedy the problem and regain registration or cease profit making, currently grant payments need not continue during the period but the school could remain on the list of funded schools in appropriate cases while it exercises that opportunity. In such cases the amendment would make the school start again and make a fresh application for Commonwealth funding instead of being able to seek an immediate resumption of funding upon regaining eligibility.

Accordingly, the House of Representatives does not accept this amendment.


Senate Amendments 10, 15, 16, 21, 22 and 23

These amendments extend payment of schools transitional emergency assistance (STEA) and establishment grants assistance to government schools. For non-government schools the amendments also require publication of details of grants on the Internet. For establishment grants additional criteria are to be prescribed by regulation and the Minister must be satisfied that a school's expected enrolments are sufficient to make it educationally and financially viable.

Extending these grants to government schools is inappropriate as the States and Territories are responsible for their own schools.

Schools receiving STEA grants are experiencing short-term financial difficulties. Publication of full details about individual non-government schools and the STEA grants they receive, as proposed in the amendment, could undermine community confidence in the schools and adversely affect the schools' endeavours to overcome their problems.

The States and Territories are responsible for registration of non-government schools, including any planning requirements they consider necessary. It is inappropriate to seek to reimpose the former Government's New Schools Policy on establishment grants.

Both STEA and establishment grants have maximum limits on the amount of funding available for a programme year. Without the injection of significant additional funding into the programmes, the amendments could largely reduce the amount of funding available to individual schools.

Accordingly, the House of Representatives does not accept these amendments.

Senate Amendment 18

This amendment is unnecessary. The Minister's report to Parliament already provides information on the aggregate distribution of grants between the government and non-government sectors. The Commonwealth recognises and supports this reporting as an important element of public accountability. The Commonwealth also supports a strong focus on educational outcomes, a focus which is crucial to ensuring Australia's young people receive the best possible education in whichever system they and their parents choose. A focus on financial inputs, as suggested by the amendment, would serve only to direct resources away from delivering the outcomes of schooling.

Accordingly, the House of Representatives does not accept this amendment.

Dr Kemp moved—That the reasons be adopted.

Mr Lee addressing the House—

Closure

Dr Kemp moved—That the question be now put.

Question—That the question be now put—put.

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 78

Mr AbbottMr EntschMr LiebermanMr Schultz
Mr AndersonMr FaheyMr LindsayMr Scott
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FischerMr LloydMr Secker
Mr AnthonyMr Forrest*Mr McArthur*Mr Slipper
Fran BaileyMrs GallusMr I. E. MacfarlaneMr Somlyay
Mr BairdMs GambaroMr McGauranDr Southcott
Mr BarresiMrs GashMrs MayDr Stone
Mr BartlettMr GeorgiouMr MooreMrs Sullivan
Mr BillsonMr HaaseMrs MoylanMr C. P. Thompson
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HardgraveMr NairnMr A. P. Thomson
Ms J. I. BishopMr HawkerMr NehlMr Truss
Mr BroughMr HockeyDr NelsonMr Tuckey
Mr CadmanMr HowardMr NevilleMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CameronMrs HullMr NugentMr Wakelin
Mr CausleyMr JullMr ProsserDr Washer
Mr CharlesMr KatterMr PyneMr Williams
Mr CostelloMrs D. M. KellyMr ReithDr Wooldridge
Mr DownerJackie KellyMr RonaldsonMs Worth
Mrs DraperDr KempMr Ruddock
Mrs ElsonMr LawlerMr St Clair

NOES, 64

Mr AdamsMr L. D. T. FergusonDr LawrenceMr Price
Mr AndrenMr M. J. FergusonMr LeeMr Quick
Mr BeazleyMr FitzgibbonMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr BevisMs GerickMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BreretonMr GibbonsMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Ms BurkeMs GillardMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr ByrneMr GriffinMr McLeayMr Sciacca
Ms CorcoranMs HallMr McMullanMr Sercombe*
Mr CoxMr HattonDr MartinMr Sidebottom
Mr CreanMs HoareMr MelhamMr Smith
Mrs CrosioMr HorneMr MorrisMr Snowdon
Mr DanbyMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Swan
Mr EdwardsMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Tanner
Ms EllisMs KernotMr O'ConnorMr K. J. Thomson
Mr EmersonMr KerrMr O'KeefeMr Wilkie
Mr M. J. EvansMr LathamMs PlibersekMr Zahra

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr M. A. J. Vaile Ms O'Byrne

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

And the question—That the reasons be adopted—being accordingly put—

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 78

Mr AbbottMr EntschMr LiebermanMr Schultz
Mr AndersonMr FaheyMr LindsayMr Scott
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FischerMr LloydMr Secker
Mr AnthonyMr Forrest*Mr McArthur*Mr Slipper
Fran BaileyMrs GallusMr I. E. MacfarlaneMr Somlyay
Mr BairdMs GambaroMr McGauranDr Southcott
Mr BarresiMrs GashMrs MayDr Stone
Mr BartlettMr GeorgiouMr MooreMrs Sullivan
Mr BillsonMr HaaseMrs MoylanMr C. P. Thompson
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HardgraveMr NairnMr A. P. Thomson
Ms J. I. BishopMr HawkerMr NehlMr Truss
Mr BroughMr HockeyDr NelsonMr Tuckey
Mr CadmanMr HowardMr NevilleMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CameronMrs HullMr NugentMr Wakelin
Mr CausleyMr JullMr ProsserDr Washer
Mr CharlesMr KatterMr PyneMr Williams
Mr CostelloMrs D. M. KellyMr ReithDr Wooldridge
Mr DownerJackie KellyMr RonaldsonMs Worth
Mrs DraperDr KempMr Ruddock
Mrs ElsonMr LawlerMr St Clair

NOES, 64

Mr AdamsMr L. D. T. FergusonDr LawrenceMr Price
Mr AndrenMr M. J. FergusonMr LeeMr Quick
Mr BeazleyMr FitzgibbonMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr BevisMs GerickMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BreretonMr GibbonsMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Ms BurkeMs GillardMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr ByrneMr GriffinMr McLeayMr Sciacca
Ms CorcoranMs HallMr McMullanMr Sercombe*
Mr CoxMr HattonDr MartinMr Sidebottom
Mr CreanMs HoareMr MelhamMr Smith
Mrs CrosioMr HorneMr MorrisMr Snowdon
Mr DanbyMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Swan
Mr EdwardsMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Tanner
Ms EllisMs KernotMr O'ConnorMr K. J. Thomson
Mr EmersonMr KerrMr O'KeefeMr Wilkie
Mr M. J. EvansMr LathamMs PlibersekMr Zahra

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr M. A. J. Vaile Ms O'Byrne

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.