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QUESTIONS

Questions without notice being asked—

Minister for Education, Training and Youth Affairs—Motion of censure

Mr Beazley (Leader of the Opposition), by leave, moved—That this House censures the Minister for Education, Training and Youth Affairs for attempting to mislead the House and the Australian public by not truthfully explaining the Government[quot ]s plans on higher education reform, their breach with previous Government undertakings, and for his deceitful answers in the House which are contradicted by confidential Government documents which he has prepared for Cabinet.

Dr Kemp (Minister for Education, Training and Youth Affairs) moved, as an amendment—That all words after "That" be omitted with a view to substituting the following words:

"the House censures the Member for Dobell for his failure to develop any manner of education policy and orders the Member for Dobell to produce forthwith, without any further amendment or debate, the original document purporting to be a Cabinet submission, and any copies thereof made by the Opposition, from which he was quoting during question time today".

Debate continued.

Member ordered to withdraw

At 4.13 p.m. the Member for Melbourne (Mr Tanner) was ordered, under standing order 304A, to withdraw from the House for one hour for continuing to interject after a warning had been given from the Chair, and he accordingly withdrew from the Chamber.

Debate continued.

Member ordered to withdraw

At 4.23 p.m. the Member for Isaacs (Mr Wilton) was ordered, under standing order 304A, to withdraw from the House for one hour for continuing to interject after a warning had been given from the Chair, and he accordingly withdrew from the Chamber.

Debate continued.


Mr Melham having raised a point of order that the amendment moved by Dr Kemp was out of order in that the House did not have the power to order a Member to produce documents—

Speaker[quot ]s ruling

The Speaker ruled that the amendment moved by Dr Kemp was in order and stated that the House should be permitted to proceed to a decision on the matter.

Dissent from ruling moved

Mr Beazley moved—That the ruling be dissented from.

Debate ensued.

Mr McMullan rising to address the House—

Closure

Mr Reith (Leader of the House) moved—That the question be now put.

Question—That the question be now put—put.

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 73

Mr AbbottMr EntschMr LindsayMr Secker
Mr AndersonMr FaheyMr LloydMr Slipper
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FischerMr McArthur*Dr Southcott
Mr AnthonyMr Forrest*Mr I. E. MacfarlaneDr Stone
Fran BaileyMs GambaroMrs MayMrs Sullivan
Mr BairdMrs GashMr MooreMr C. P. Thompson
Mr BartlettMr GeorgiouMrs MoylanMr A. P. Thomson
Mr BillsonMr HaaseMr NairnMr Truss
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HardgraveMr NehlMr Tuckey
Ms J. I. BishopMr HawkerDr NelsonMr M. A. J. Vaile
Mr BroughMr HockeyMr NevilleMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CadmanMr HowardMr NugentMr Wakelin
Mr CameronMrs HullMr PyneDr Washer
Mr CausleyMr JullMr ReithMr Williams
Mr CharlesMrs D. M. KellyMr RonaldsonDr Wooldridge
Mr CostelloJackie KellyMr RuddockMs Worth
Mr DownerDr KempMr St Clair
Mrs DraperMr LawlerMr Schultz
Mrs ElsonMr LiebermanMr Scott

NOES, 59

Mr AdamsMr GibbonsMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr AlbaneseMs GillardMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BeazleyMr GriffinMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Mr BevisMs HallMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr BreretonMr HattonMr McMullanMr Sciacca
Mr CoxMs HoareMr MartinMr Sercombe*
Mr CreanMr HollisMr MelhamMr Sidebottom
Mr EdwardsMr HorneMr MorrisMr Smith
Ms EllisMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Snowdon
Dr EmersonMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Tanner
Mr M. J. EvansMs KernotMr O[quot ]ConnorDr Theophanous
Mr L. D. T. FergusonMr KerrMr O[quot ]KeefeMr K. J. Thomson
Mr M. J. FergusonMr LathamMs PlibersekMr Wilkie
Mr FitzgibbonDr LawrenceMr PriceMr Wilton
Ms GerickMr LeeMr Quick

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr Barresi Mrs Crosio

Mrs Gallus Ms O[quot ]Byrne

Mr Prosser Ms Burke

Mr Somlyay Mr McLeay

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

And the question—That the ruling be dissented from—being accordingly put—

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 59

Mr AdamsMr GibbonsMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr AlbaneseMs GillardMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BeazleyMr GriffinMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Mr BevisMs HallMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr BreretonMr HattonMr McMullanMr Sciacca
Mr CoxMs HoareMr MartinMr Sercombe*
Mr CreanMr HollisMr MelhamMr Sidebottom
Mr EdwardsMr HorneMr MorrisMr Smith
Ms EllisMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Snowdon
Dr EmersonMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Tanner
Mr M. J. EvansMs KernotMr O[quot ]ConnorDr Theophanous
Mr L. D. T. FergusonMr KerrMr O[quot ]KeefeMr K. J. Thomson
Mr M. J. FergusonMr LathamMs PlibersekMr Wilkie
Mr FitzgibbonDr LawrenceMr PriceMr Wilton
Ms GerickMr LeeMr Quick

NOES, 73

Mr AbbottMr EntschMr LindsayMr Secker
Mr AndersonMr FaheyMr LloydMr Slipper
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FischerMr McArthur*Dr Southcott
Mr AnthonyMr Forrest*Mr I. E. MacfarlaneDr Stone
Fran BaileyMs GambaroMrs MayMrs Sullivan
Mr BairdMrs GashMr MooreMr C. P. Thompson
Mr BartlettMr GeorgiouMrs MoylanMr A. P. Thomson
Mr BillsonMr HaaseMr NairnMr Truss
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HardgraveMr NehlMr Tuckey
Ms J. I. BishopMr HawkerDr NelsonMr M. A. J. Vaile
Mr BroughMr HockeyMr NevilleMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CadmanMr HowardMr NugentMr Wakelin
Mr CameronMrs HullMr PyneDr Washer
Mr CausleyMr JullMr ReithMr Williams
Mr CharlesMrs D. M. KellyMr RonaldsonDr Wooldridge
Mr CostelloJackie KellyMr RuddockMs Worth
Mr DownerDr KempMr St Clair
Mrs DraperMr LawlerMr Schultz
Mrs ElsonMr LiebermanMr Scott

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr Barresi Mrs Crosio

Mrs Gallus Ms O[quot ]Byrne

Mr Prosser Ms Burke

Mr Somlyay Mr McLeay

And so it was negatived.

Question—That the amendment be agreed to—put.

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 73

Mr AbbottMr EntschMr LindsayMr Secker
Mr AndersonMr FaheyMr LloydMr Slipper
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FischerMr McArthur*Dr Southcott
Mr AnthonyMr Forrest*Mr I. E. MacfarlaneDr Stone
Fran BaileyMs GambaroMrs MayMrs Sullivan
Mr BairdMrs GashMr MooreMr C. P. Thompson
Mr BartlettMr GeorgiouMrs MoylanMr A. P. Thomson
Mr BillsonMr HaaseMr NairnMr Truss
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HardgraveMr NehlMr Tuckey
Ms J. I. BishopMr HawkerDr NelsonMr M. A. J. Vaile
Mr BroughMr HockeyMr NevilleMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CadmanMr HowardMr NugentMr Wakelin
Mr CameronMrs HullMr PyneDr Washer
Mr CausleyMr JullMr ReithMr Williams
Mr CharlesMrs D. M. KellyMr RonaldsonDr Wooldridge
Mr CostelloJackie KellyMr RuddockMs Worth
Mr DownerDr KempMr St Clair
Mrs DraperMr LawlerMr Schultz
Mrs ElsonMr LiebermanMr Scott

NOES, 60

Mr AdamsMr GibbonsMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr AlbaneseMs GillardMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BeazleyMr GriffinMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Mr BevisMs HallMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr BreretonMr HattonMr McMullanMr Sciacca
Mr CoxMs HoareMr MartinMr Sercombe*
Mr CreanMr HollisMr MelhamMr Sidebottom
Mr EdwardsMr HorneMr MorrisMr Smith
Ms EllisMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Snowdon
Dr EmersonMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Swan
Mr M. J. EvansMs KernotMr O[quot ]ConnorMr Tanner
Mr L. D. T. FergusonMr KerrMr O[quot ]KeefeDr Theophanous
Mr M. J. FergusonMr LathamMs PlibersekMr K. J. Thomson
Mr FitzgibbonDr LawrenceMr PriceMr Wilkie
Ms GerickMr LeeMr QuickMr Wilton

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr Barresi Mrs Crosio

Mrs Gallus Ms O[quot ]Byrne

Mr Prosser Ms Burke

Mr Somlyay Mr McLeay

And so it was resolved in the affirmative.


Question—That the motion, as amended, be agreed to—put.

The House divided (the Speaker, Mr J. N. Andrew, in the Chair)—

AYES, 73

Mr AbbottMr EntschMr LindsayMr Secker
Mr AndersonMr FaheyMr LloydMr Slipper
Mr K. J. AndrewsMr FischerMr McArthur*Dr Southcott
Mr AnthonyMr Forrest*Mr I. E. MacfarlaneDr Stone
Fran BaileyMs GambaroMrs MayMrs Sullivan
Mr BairdMrs GashMr MooreMr C. P. Thompson
Mr BartlettMr GeorgiouMrs MoylanMr A. P. Thomson
Mr BillsonMr HaaseMr NairnMr Truss
Mrs B. K. BishopMr HardgraveMr NehlMr Tuckey
Ms J. I. BishopMr HawkerDr NelsonMr M. A. J. Vaile
Mr BroughMr HockeyMr NevilleMrs D. S. Vale
Mr CadmanMr HowardMr NugentMr Wakelin
Mr CameronMrs HullMr PyneDr Washer
Mr CausleyMr JullMr ReithMr Williams
Mr CharlesMrs D. M. KellyMr RonaldsonDr Wooldridge
Mr CostelloJackie KellyMr RuddockMs Worth
Mr DownerDr KempMr St Clair
Mrs DraperMr LawlerMr Schultz
Mrs ElsonMr LiebermanMr Scott

NOES, 60

Mr AdamsMr GibbonsMs LivermoreMr Ripoll
Mr AlbaneseMs GillardMr McClellandMs Roxon
Mr BeazleyMr GriffinMs J. S. McFarlaneMr Rudd
Mr BevisMs HallMs MacklinMr Sawford*
Mr BreretonMr HattonMr McMullanMr Sciacca
Mr CoxMs HoareMr MartinMr Sercombe*
Mr CreanMr HollisMr MelhamMr Sidebottom
Mr EdwardsMr HorneMr MorrisMr Smith
Ms EllisMrs IrwinMr MossfieldMr Snowdon
Dr EmersonMr JenkinsMr MurphyMr Swan
Mr M. J. EvansMs KernotMr O[quot ]ConnorMr Tanner
Mr L. D. T. FergusonMr KerrMr O[quot ]KeefeDr Theophanous
Mr M. J. FergusonMr LathamMs PlibersekMr K. J. Thomson
Mr FitzgibbonDr LawrenceMr PriceMr Wilkie
Ms GerickMr LeeMr QuickMr Wilton

* Tellers

Pairs

Mr Barresi Mrs Crosio

Mrs Gallus Ms O[quot ]Byrne

Mr Prosser Ms Burke

Mr Somlyay Mr McLeay


And so it was resolved in the affirmative.

Questions without notice concluded.

The Speaker drew attention to the resolution of the House and asked the Member for Dobell to comply with the resolution.

Mr Lee indicated that the document was no longer in his possession and he was not in a position to present it. He further stated he did not acknowledge the right of the House to order him to produce the document.

The Speaker invited the Member for Dobell to reconsider the matter.

Mr Lee advised the House that he was not in a position to withdraw his statement.