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Wednesday, 14 October 2015
Page: 7570


Senator SIEWERT (Western AustraliaAustralian Greens Whip) (10:30): Thank you for that additional information. There was some of that in the exchange of letters with the opposition. Thank you for outlining the additional data sets.

With all due respect, I appreciate the information but you did not actually answer my question, which was: will there be the ability to compare like with like? What you are doing is putting in place the debit card process and you are pouring in $1 million worth of additional services. I will repeat again that I think the additional services are really important, so I am not saying—and I do not want anyone for one second to say that I am saying—that those services are not important, because they are. But you have the debit card and the additional services. How are you going to differentiate the impact of the debit card from the additional services? In other words, you need another, similar community to be able to compare it. If you put in $1 million worth of services to a similar community, given the evidence base that we have seen before you are going to see a damn sight better response in that community than if those services were not there. So how are you going to differentiate the impact of the services and of the debit card?