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Thursday, 17 October 1996
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Senator CHRIS EVANS(10.22 a.m.) —by leave—Mr Acting Deputy President, I just indicate that the opposition will be opposing formality. I understood Senator Margetts was going to seek to suspend and have that motion debated. Just in terms of the opposition's position, we will not be supporting her motion.

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT —You can allow it to be declared formal and still oppose it. That would be a more sensible course of action.

Senator CHRIS EVANS —When you asked me to call, I called.

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT —No, I asked whether anybody objected to it being called formal.

Senator CHRIS EVANS —I did.

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT —Well you shouldn't have. You should have let it be called formal and then voted against it.

Senator CHRIS EVANS —With due respect, Mr Acting Deputy President, I do not have to call according to your instructions. In putting the motion, you asked whether anyone opposed it being declared formal and I said, `Yes, we oppose it being declared formal.' I do not need my decisions reviewed by you, with all due respect.

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT —Those were the arrangements that I was told were made. If it is declared formal then it can be debated.

Senator CHRIS EVANS —No, I think you heard the deputy manager of government business indicate that that was the government's position and I indicated the opposition's position.

The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT —Then the motion is not declared formal.