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Tuesday, 7 September 1993
Page: 1133

Senator McMULLAN (Minister for the Arts and Administrative Services) (11.45 p.m.) —At a quarter to 12 I would not normally respond to such speeches, and I will not waste the time of the Senate by responding to the speeches by those who spoke on normal budget matters. They are legitimate contributions, part of the normal give and take of debate, and there is no case for response here. I enjoyed Senator Ferguson's contribution, but I will resist any comment in response.

Senator CalvertI'll take you home again Kathleen.

Senator McMULLAN —No, if we start quoting song titles we could be here a long time. Very briefly, I would say two things about the contributions made by Senator Kemp and Senator Michael Baume. They were sort of mirror images. It seemed to me that Senator Kemp made a genuine attempt to lift the intellectual substance and tone of the debate and Senator Baume made a conscious effort to reduce it.

  Of course I did not agree with a lot of the things Senator Kemp said, but I thought it was a very thoughtful contribution.

  I have a very strongly different view from his about both the role of Professor Manning Clark and his history and its contribution.

  I think Professor Manning Clark's contribution will withstand a critique by Senator

Kemp, but I welcome the fact that he at least made that contribution in a thoughtful way.

  I sincerely regret the fact that Senator Baume chose as his parting gift to us on his way to New York another tour through the gutters of Australia. All I hope is that he has a wonderful time examining the sewers of New York.

Senate adjourned at 11.47 p.m. until Monday, 27 September 1993, at 2 p.m.