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Tuesday, 26 November 1985
Page: 2238


Senator HARRADINE(3.42) —Having listened to Senator Sir John Carrick, I do not have a great deal to quibble about. I do not think anybody would have a great deal to quibble about what he has said. It just may be the interpretation that people happen to put on what Senator Sir John Carrick has said. I agree that orderly industrial progress requires that whatever system is in place-whether it be the system of conciliation and arbitration or whether it be the collective bargaining system which takes place in the United States of America-the parties to that system must have the desire to see that system work. That is the essential feature irrespective of what system is in existence. Orderly industrial progress also requires properly representative institutions of both employers and employees. I believe Sir John Moore has worked on that basis for a long period. He has presided over the system of conciliation and arbitration in Australia. I have had quite a few differences with him in respect of some of the things that he has done but not as many as most people in the trade union movement. However, I have never been one to question his integrity, his dedication and his ability to place emphasis on the conciliation aspect of his function.

I remind the Senate of something Sir John Moore said only the other day in a public interview when he was asked about proposals to deregulate wages. I am giving this information second hand because I did not see the television program. I believe he just posed this question: If a government, whether it be this Government or some future government, saw the need in the general interests of the community and the country for an incomes freeze of some kind or another and, so far as that related to the wages aspect of incomes, there was not a centralised wage fixing system, how would that wage freeze be implemented? If the Opposition is hell-bent on the question of deregulation it should consider that response by Sir John Moore because I think it is something that it has failed to consider.

This is not the time to canvass those issues. I would like the opportunity at some stage to canvass them at length. I join Senator John Carrick, Senator Cook and other honourable senators in paying respect to Sir John Moore for his work in the interests of conciliation and arbitration, bearing in mind that it was for the peace and good order of this Commonwealth and was performed in a very difficult period of our industrial existence. I wish him and his wife an enjoyable and fruitful retirement.

Question resolved in the affirmative.