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Wednesday, 14 December 1983
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Senator HARRADINE(5.02) — Mr Chairman, let me deal first of all with that question. The reason that I gave is absolutely correct. First of all, it places those who would have been involved since 1980 and who would have fallen under the jurisdiction of the Crimes (Taxation Offences) Act are placed at an advantage compared with those who would be covered under this legislation. In fact if honourable senators analyse the legislation they will see that it imposes retrospectively a harsher penalty on those who undertook certain steps which were within the law between the years 1972 and 1980. It imposes upon them a greater penalty than is imposed upon persons who, deliberately and knowingly, since the introduction of the Crimes (Taxation Offences) Act, did virtually the same thing. I notice that Senator Walsh ignored the points that I made about his calls on friends of the tax dodgers.

Senator Walsh —That has got nothing to do with section 3 (12).

Senator HARRADINE —It had something to do with what the honourable senator said. He just said--

Senator Walsh —Senator Chipp said that the Democrats were offered half a million . How much would you take?

The CHAIRMAN —Order! Senator Walsh, you will not interject any more. I call Senator Harradine.

Senator HARRADINE —I did not quite hear that interjection but I hope that the Hansard reporter has got it down.

Senator Walsh —I said that Senator Chipp said that he was offered half a million dollars. That had no influence on his vote. But you have not yet given a valid reason why your vote has been changed.

The CHAIRMAN —Order! Senator Walsh, from the tone of your words there was a clear reflection on Senator Harradine and I ask you to withdraw.

Senator Walsh —I withdraw, Mr Chairman.

Senator HARRADINE —Mr Chairman, that statement is a reflection upon Senator Walsh. It is not the first time that he has made that sort of allegation. He made a similar type of allegation at the Tangney electorate council of the Australian Labor Party in Western Australia. That was a most serious allegation against Senator Chipp and a most serious allegation against me. Frankly, I believe that this is an indication of one of the reasons why Senator Walsh ought to resign from the Ministry or why Mr Keating ought to get somebody else to replace him as representing him in this chamber.

Clauses agreed to.

Clause 10.