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Tuesday, 13 December 1983
Page: 3698

Senator HARRADINE(9.17) — As Senator Ryan said, Mr Chairman, I am not the Minister--

Senator Ryan —At least not the same as the Minister, in any respect.

The CHAIRMAN —We are dealing with sex discrimination and not with sex.

Senator HARRADINE —Senator Ryan is a bit sharper than I am, I think. Mr Chairman , I have tried to explain the situation. I do not want to canvass what I have already said. I think we are dealing with two different aspects. I think that we understand what is happening. I am of the view that people who hold a view about marriage should not be forced under penalty-as is the case under this legislation-to, in effect, hold another view. I think that one of the most devastating statements made by the Minister for Education and Youth Affairs ( Senator Ryan) tonight was: 'If I am right as far as the external affairs power is concerned, the question of having a de facto spouse as part of the definition of marital status can rely on the marriage power'. I think that is a most devastating statement.

Amendment negatived.