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Thursday, 26 November 1936

Senator ARKINS (New South Wales) . - I am gratified that the Minister has given me that information, because it indicates that my presumption was correct. Under " Miscellaneous Services " provision is made for the various tests which the pilots must undergo. I have complained that a specialist who was not an officer of the department was brought in to decide whether or not a pilot was qualified. In my opinion, there is no necessity to obtain the services of an expert who is not a departmental official, unless he is completely beyond departmental interferences.

The CHAIRMAN - The honorable senator evidently proposes to discuss a matter of administration. The item before the committee refers to salaries and expenditure.

Senator ARKINS - Do I understand that I am unable. -to pursue the subject?

The CHAIRMAN - I repeat that the honorable senator desires to discuss a matter of administration. This bill deals with the expenditure of money. The Leader of the Senate (Senator Pearce) has supplied the honorable senator with details of the item "Miscellaneous Ser- vices " ; if he desires to discuss a subject that does not relate to the expenditure covered by the bill I must rule him out of order.

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