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Wednesday, 11 August 1926

Senator GRANT (New South Wales) . - I move -

That the House of Representatives be requested to leave out all the words after the words "sub-item (c)."

If that is agreed to, the vital part of the bill will be deleted. That is the object I have in view.

The CHAIRMAN - I cannot accept the request. The honorable senator can achieve this object by voting against the schedule.

Senator GRANT - If you rule that I may not submit an amendment to the schedule, I shall appeal against your ruling.

Senator Needham - Cannot the honorable senator move that the schedule be omitted from the bill ?

The CHAIRMAN - No. The honorable senator would be in order in moving a request that the words referred to be omitted with a view to the insertion in their stead of other words; but, if he desires that the schedule as a whole be omitted, his proper course is to vote against the question, " That the schedule be agreed to."

Senator GRANT - I give notice of my dissent from your ruling.

The CHAIRMAN - The honorable senator will give notice in writing.

In the Senate:

The CHAIRMAN - While the committee was discussing the schedule, Senator Grant disagreed with my ruling disallow- ing a request for an amendment to leave out all words after the words '"'sub-item (c)." I based my ruling on the ground that the requested amendment would leave the schedule absolutely meaningless unless he proposed to insert other words in their stead, and further that it would nullify the decision of the committee in agreeing to clause 3, which provides for the imposition of certain Customs duties.

Senator Grant - During the whole of the discussion of this bill I have shown that I am entirely opposed to it. When I moved the motion in committee it was my desire to destroy the bill. The Chairman has intimated to you that the schedule, if amended as 1 suggested, would be defeated. That is precisely the object I had in view. I could not achieve that object so directly by any means other than that which I adopted. I consider that I am entitled to move a request for an amendment, even if its effect would be to destroy the schedule either in whole or in part. I submit that the Chairman was in error in ruling my amendment out of order. He should have put it to the committee.

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