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Wednesday, 9 November 1921

Senator RUSSELL (VICTORIA) (Vice-President of the Executive Council) - Yes, and there are one or two additions. I snail have to recommit the Bill later on, so as to give the Committee an opportunity to deal with some of the amendments I promised to have made. For the purpose of clearing up the question as to what are major and what are minor offences, I move, as a compromise -

That in the proviso to sub-clause 3 the word " fine " be loft out, with a view to insert in lieu thereof the words " a fine not exceeding two pounds ".

That would mean that an officer who was fined £2 or more could, appeal, but against a fine below that amount there would be no appeal. I have endeavoured to meet the wishes of honorable senators.

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - Will there be any right of appeal to a Board, apart from the officer who imposes the fine ?

Senator RUSSELL - The appeal will be to an Appeal Board, whose decision shall be final.

Senator PRATTEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - The point taken was that if a man was fined- £5, by his superior officer, the delinquent would have no right of appeal, except to the officer who fined him. I think that the Minister agreed to give the right of appeal, in the case of a fine over a certain amount, to a Board, rather than from Cæsar to Caesar.

Senator RUSSELL - Yes, to an Appeal Board, whose decision is to be final in these matters. It would not be a very serious offence where the penalty was under £2. A person fined £2 or more will have the right of appeal to a Board, every member of which will be on oath to do his duty.

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