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Wednesday, 17 August 1921

Senator GUTHRIE (VICTORIA) . - I indorse the remarks of Senator Lynch. It is somewhat like a voice crying in the wilderness to ask for sympathy in this Senate for the primary producers of Australia. However, at the present moment I am not prepared to go on with my remarks, and I prefer to give way to Senator Lynch, who is putting up such an excellent fight for the real producers of Australia.

The CHAIRMAN (Senator Bakhap - A certain standing order provides that an honorable senator is . not permitted to speak in Committee on the Tariff for more than fifteen minutes at one time, and another senator cannot rise and. practically defeat the object of the order by saying that ' he wishes the senator who has preceded him to continue his remarks. He must address himself to the subjectmatter under discussion by the Committee for an appreciable period of time. Otherwise it would appear to me that I would be allowing the standing order which governs our procedure to be contravened.

Senator GUTHRIE (VICTORIA) - My object in rising was to oppose anyfurther increase in duties.

The CHAIRMAN - The honorable senator is quite in order in his remarks.

Senator GUTHRIE (VICTORIA) - As I said 'before, any remarks I may make will bear no weight, and it will he a waste of time for me to put facts and figures before honorable senators who have already made up their minds to vote for increased duties and higher cost of living, thus penalizing the real producers of this country. This Tariff does not attempt to encourage the primary producers or in any way protect the consumer. Its sole purpose, it seems to me, is to encourage spoon-fed, hothouse reared manufacturers, and turn millionaires into multi-millionaires. It is a magnificent Tariff for that purpose, and I should think it was drawn up by the Chamber of Manufactures. However, I am not prepared to present my facts and figures to the Senate at this juncture.

I shall do so later on, provided I get the opportunity. . For the moment I conclude , these introductory remarks. Forcible though they may be, they express what I think, and I do not care whether they offend certain sections of the electors, or indeed the whole "bally" lot of them.

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