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Wednesday, 29 June 1921

Senator PAYNE (Tasmania) .- I desire to refer to the Commonwealth Steam-ship Line, and wish to have your direction, Mr. Chairman, as to whether I can do so under this vote or under that relating to the Department of Trade and Customs.

Senator E D MILLEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - That is under the Prime Minister's Department.

Senator PAYNE - When coming up the Bay a few days ago I saw something which would exercise the minds of the people who have to find the money. A number of the Commonwealth ships were lying idle-

Senator E D MILLEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - I rise to order. I desire to know whether it is competent for the honorable senator to raise a matter which refers to a vote which has been previously dealt with?

The CHAIRMAN (Senator Bakhap - I do not think that the honorable senator desires to contravene the Standing Orders, but I must rule him out of order in discussing the matter he has introduced in connexion with this vote. A little further on there is a heading " Navigation," under which he may be able to make any remarks about shipping. I must ask him to refrain from commenting upon the Commonwealth shipping service under the Home and Territories Department.

Senator E D MILLEN (NEW SOUTH WALES) - Iam sure the honorable senator will recognise that I have no desire to suppress discussion, but I can see, the difficulty which would be created if, after having passed an item, we adopted the practice of giving it further consideration.

Senator Payne - I asked for the direction of the Chairman.

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