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Thursday, 3 December 1914

Senator SENIOR (South Australia) . - Senator Guthrie has made 'at apparent that while a shipwright is supposed to know the whole of the hull of a vessel, there is also carpenter's work to be done, exclusive of the shipwright's work, which might be termed iron work.

Senator Needham - No; the shipwright knows the vessel from keel to truck.

Senator SENIOR - But with wood, iron, and steel vessels there must be a differentiation, even between shipwrights.

Senator Guthrie - A shipwright knows all about the building of both iron and wooden vessels.

Senator SENIOR - But evidently the work of a ship's carpenter is totally different from that of a shipwright, and neither can take the place of the other. Senator Guthrie, however, has shown that a shipwright is likely to be the more useful man if only one is carried, although admitting that where two are carried, both can be very well employed.

Senator Guthrie - A carpenter is not absolutely necessary for safety. He is wanted only for keeping the ship in order.

Senator SENIOR - Apparently, on large boats, two men will be necessary, and, in my opinion, the clause as it stands will meet all cases.

Senator Turley - Stow do you make that out?

Senator SENIOR - In the larger boats both men are necessary.

Senator Turley - They are necessary, but are not carried.

Senator SENIOR - That is another question. We are simply saying that if more than one person is necessary a shipwright or ship's carpenter should be carried, just as when more than one sailor is necessary two or more sailors are carried, although the number is not specified in the Navigation Act.

Senator Turley - The number of hands to be carried is specified in the schedule to the Act.

Progress reported.

Sitting suspended from 6-25 to 8 p.m.

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