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Tuesday, 17 November 1959

The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN (Mr Lucock (LYNE, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Order! I think the honorable member is getting wide of the request of the Attorney-General. The committee is dealing with the procedural question of whether amendments proposing new clauses should be considered at their appropriate place in the bill instead of being left until the end of the bill for consideration. I feel that many of the members who have spoken have been very wide of the mark.

Dr Evatt - It is not a question of the relevance of what has been said before. It is a question of how we are to deal with provisions that are to become the substance and fabric of the bill. As we deal with each point we will be referring backwards and forwards. The Attorney-General (Sir Garfield Barwick) could, I think, have a short adjournment so as to arrange the matters in an order which would meet the objection raised by the honorable member for Lang (Mr. Stewart). I have no doubt that the Attorney-General has his papers arranged in a certain order. It is probable that very few members in the chamber will have quite the same advantage. Therefore, I suggest to the AttorneyGeneral and the Temporary Chairman that this be looked at. It would not take long. The committee could then resume and get through the bill in a way that would prevent any confusion. It is vital to prevent any confusion on this important bill.

Mr Calwell - I want to make a few observations on this point. I think that what the Attorney-General (Sir Garfield Barwick) suggests is eminently sensible. He wants to so arrange the consideration of the various proposed amendments as to obviate the necessity for bringing in amendments as new clauses after the bill has gone through the committee in its present form. He wants to introduce his amendments in in the order in which they would appear in the bill. I think that is right.

I also think that what the honorable member for Lang (Mr. Stewart) and the honorable member for Parkes (Mr. Haylen) have said about the complexity of this matter should receive consideration by the Attorney-General so that we can get a newly numbered document. It ought to be possible to have that by the time the House meets to-morrow afternoon. The Printing Office can certainly do that. It could have a new, clean document printed which would indicate everything that the AttorneyGeneral proposes to put in at the point at which he wants to put it in. We could agree to suspend Standing Orders accordingly.

Mr Daly - I intend to test the feeling of the committee on the matter that has been put by the honorable member for Parkes (Mr. Haylen), the honorable member for Lang (Mr. Stewart) and other members of the Opposition. I believe that the proposed amendments should be reproduced for honorable members so that their effect may be clearly seen. This has been done in other legislation to which amendments have been proposed. I know that the AttorneyGeneral (Sir Garfield Barwick), the Leader of the Opposition (Dr. Evatt) and others can understand the proposed amendments; but I say, without reflecting on any one, that they have earned a considerable amount of money in attaining their skill. We who have not had the same privilege find some difficulty in following the list of proposed amendments. This is not a matter that can he glossed over lightly. This is a bill that will affect the lives of many people.

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