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Tuesday, 19 May 1942
Page: 1356

Mr JOLLY (Lilley) . - I understood the Treasurer (Mr. Chifley) to say that as a. corollary to the uniform taxation we should have uniform social services in Australia, but we have no assurance that the uniform taxation legislation will be passed or that the State Governments will not be able to increase their social services. The Minister for Social Services (Mr. Holloway) said that the Government would not take into consideration any pensions paid by the States.

Mr HOLLOWAY (MELBOURNE, VICTORIA) - No; I said that we could not dictate to the States what they should or should not do.

Mr JOLLY -- I take it that, if a State continues to pay pensions to widows, those payments will be taken into consideration by the Commonwealth Commissioner of Pensions when he applies the means test to applicants for the Commonwealth widows' pension. It should be laid down definitely that receipt by a widow of a pension from a State shall disqualify that widow from receipt of a pension from the Commonwealth. I, therefore, move -

That in sub-clause (1.), after paragraph (ff), the following paragraph be inserted: - " (ft) if she is paid a widow's pension under a widows' pension act of a State.".

Mr Chifley - That would complicate matters. Any income of a widow, whether it be by way of pension from a State or not, will be taken into consideration under the means test.

Mr JOLLY - 1 differ from the Treasurer on that point. Some of the

States make an allowance to widows, but they do not describe it as a widows' pension. The Parliament should make it clear that its intention is that there shall be a uniform widows' pension throughout Australia. We cannot have uniform taxation unless ultimately we have uniform social services. The only thing to do is to amend the clause in the way I suggest.

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