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Wednesday, 28 September 1910

Senator PEARCE (Western Australia) (Minister of Defence) . - Senator Millen is not quite right in saying that an oversight has occurred. Clause 15 deals with successive examinations. That is to say, there are stages of examination for various grades. For instance, we lay down certain conditions in regard to the granting' of a third engineer's certificate, and the regulations may not prescribe any particular conditions as to shop service. But there may be conditions laid down in regard to the second engineer's certificate. Therefore, at each stage, the applicant has to show that he possesses the necessary qualifications.

Senator Millen - The Minister overlooks the fact that, under clause 14, the applicant would have to show that he possessed the necessary qualifications before he could be examined.

Senator PEARCE - Under clause 15 we say that the person having obtained one certificate has to satisfy the examiners when he goes up for a further certificate.

Senator Millen - He cannot go up for any examination until he has satisfied the examiners that he possesses the necessary qualifications.

Senator PEARCE - It must be remembered that this is a progressive measure. Under it a man can go from one stage to another. It is, therefore, provided that at each stage he shall show that he possesses the "prescribed qualifications." Even if there were any doubt about the matter it is better to repeat the words than to strike them out and find afterwards that we have to put them back again.

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