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Thursday, 9 December 1971
Page: 4506

The CHAIRMAN (Mr Lucock (LYNE, NEW SOUTH WALES) - Does the honourable member claim to have been misrepresented?

Mr WHITLAM - I. have been misrepresented, it is hard to believe, by the Prime Minister (Mr McMahon). The conversation I had with the Prime Minister related to the Parliamentary Allowances Bill and the Ministers of State Bill (No. 2). Those Bills came in just before 6 o'clock last Wednesday and I spoke to the Prime Minister after the House resumed just after 8 o'clock. I did not see the Bills until other honourable members saw them in the House just before 6 o'clock. The Leader of the House (Mr Swartz) spoke to me on the Opposition front bench. We repaired behind the Speaker's chair and spoke with the Prime Minister. I made refernce to the Richardson Report on that occasion, the only occasion I have ever discussed it with the Prime Minister. This was just after 8 o'clock on Wednesday night.

Mr SWARTZ(Darling Downs- Minister for National Development) - by leave - I wish to make a statement in relation to this matter. I do not think the particular time is important and I am merely quoting from recollection in relation to this incident. To the best of my memory - of course, I may be wrong - the discussion took place when I referred the matter to the Leader of the Opposition (Mr Whitlam) and suggested to him that he could perhaps discuss the matter with the Prime Minister (Mr McMahon). The Leader of the Opposition did come round and the matter was discussed. To the best of my recollection it was about the time petitions were being read. 1 may again be wrong, but 1 am merely saying that this is the best of my recollection. I can merely confirm that to the best of my knowledge that was the time.

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