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Thursday, 8 July 1920

Mr MATHEWS (Melbourne Ports) . - A man may present a discharge as a carpenter, shipwright, or even an A.B., when as a fact he has not actually served in the capacity mentioned. If anowner thinks fit, he may give a steward a discharge showing that he had been an able seaman. Under this clause, that steward would not need to present a certificate to show what he really was.

Mr GREENE (RICHMOND, NEW SOUTH WALES) (Minister for Trade and Customs) - In any case, the seaman who was rated in that way would not have a certificate.

Mr MATHEWS - The seamen have exactly the same objection, so far as the discharge is concerned. Unless a man has to show some proof of competency, owners can take on any man they like. The Minister knows that there is trafficking in discharges and certificates, and that there is nothing to stop it.

Mr GREENE (RICHMOND, NEW SOUTH WALES) (Minister for Trade and Customs) - The superintendent has to satisfy himself that the man is entitled to be rated in the rating which he is claiming.

Mr MATHEWS - It is evident that the Minister has determined that all these clauses, which run together, shall be passed as they stand. It is therefore not of much use to object to them.

Amendment negatived.

Clause agreed to.

Clauses 16 and 17 agreed to.

Clause 18 (Wages payable for handling cargo or ballast).

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