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Community Affairs Legislation Committee
24/10/2018
Estimates
HEALTH PORTFOLIO

HEALTH PORTFOLIO

In a ttendance

Senator McKenzie, Minister for Regional Services, Local Government and Decentralisation

Senator Scullion, Minister for Indigenous Affairs

Whole of Portfolio

Ms Glenys Beauchamp PSM, Secretary

Professor Brendan Murphy, Chief Medical Officer

Mr Matt Yannopoulos, Deputy Secretary, Corporate Operations Group

Ms Caroline Edwards, Deputy Secretary, Health Systems Policy and Primary Care Group

Adjunct Professor John Skerritt, Deputy Secretary, Health Products Regulation Group

Ms Penny Shakespeare, Acting Deputy Secretary, Health Financing Group

Dr Lisa Studdert, Acting Deputy Secretary, Aged Care and Population Health Group

Dr Margot McCarthy, Deputy Secretary, Ageing and Aged Care Group

Mr Charles Wann, First Assistant Secretary, Financial Management Division

Mr Craig Boyd, Chief Financial Officer, Financial Management Division

Dr Rochelle Christian, Chief Budget Officer, Financial Management Division

Ms Rachel Balmanno, First Assistant Secretary, People, Communication and Parliamentary Division

Ms Radha Khiani, Acting Assistant Secretary, Ministerial, Governance and Cabinet Branch, People, Communication and Parliamentary Division

Ms Jodie Grieve, Assistant Secretary, Communication and Change Branch, People, Communication and Parliamentary Division

Ms Donna Moody, First Assistant Secretary, Health Grants and Network

Ms Jackie Davis, First Assistant Secretary, Legal and Assurance Division

Mr Daniel McCabe, First Assistant Secretary, Information Technology Division

Mr Barry Sandison, Director, Australian Institute of Health and Welfare

Dr Adrian Webster, Group Head, Hospitals and Expenditure Group, Australian Institute of Health and Welfare

Mr Matthew James PSM, Deputy Director and Group Head, Housing and Specialised Services Group, Australian Institute of Health and Welfare

Outcome 1

Ms Tania Rishniw, First Assistant Secretary, Portfolio Strategies Division

Mr Brian Kelleher, Assistant Secretary, Portfolio Design Services Branch, Portfolio Strategies Division

Mr Paul McBride, First Assistant Secretary, Health Economics and Research Division

Dr Alison Morehead, First Assistant Secretary, Primary Care and Mental Health Division

Mrs Louise Riley, Acting Assistant Secretary, Primary Care, Dental and Palliative Care Branch, Primary Care and Mental Health Division

Ms Adriana Platona, First Assistant Secretary, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Ms Lisa La Rance, Assistant Secretary, Pricing and PBS Policy Branch, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Ms Louise Clarke, Assistant Secretary, Office of Health Technology Assessment—Policy Branch, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Dr Harry Rothenfluh, Assistant Secretary, Office of Health Technology Assessment—Assessment Branch, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Ms Natasha Ploenges, Acting Assistant Secretary, Pharmacy Branch, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Dr Megan Keaney, Principal Medical Adviser, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Mr Tim Kelsey, Chief Executive Officer, Australian Digital Health Agency

Ms Bettina McMahon, Chief Operating Officer, Governance and Industry Collaboration and Adoption Division, Australian Digital Health Agency

Mr Steven Momcilovic, Chief Financial Officer, Financial Services, Australian Digital Health Agency

Mr Anthony Kitzelmann, General Manager, Cyber Security, Australian Digital Health Agency

Mr Ronan O’Connor, Executive General Manager, Core Services Systems Operations Division, Australian Digital Health Agency

Clinical Professor Meredith Makeham, Chief Medical Adviser, Australian Digital Health Agency

Outcome 2

Ms Lyndall Soper, First Assistant Secretary, Population Health and Sport Division

Mr Matthew Boyler, First Assistant Secretary, Cancer Policy, Screening and Services Taskforce

Ms Trisha Garrett, Assistant Secretary, Policy Change and Adoption Branch, Cancer Policy, Screening and Services Taskforce

Mr David Paull, Assistant Secretary, National Cancer Screening Register, Cancer Policy, Screening and Services Taskforce

Ms Alice Creelman, Assistant Secretary, Cancer Policy and Services Branch Cancer Policy, Screening and Services Taskforce

Mr David Hallinan, First Assistant Secretary, Health Workforce Division

Ms Chris Jeacle, Assistant Secretary, Rural Access Branch, Health Workforce Division

Ms Fay Holden, Assistant Secretary, Health Training Branch, Health Workforce Division

Ms Lynne Gillam, Assistant Secretary, Health Workforce Reform Branch, Health Workforce Division

Dr Paul Cutting, Assistant Secretary, Workforce Regulation Taskforce, Health Workforce Division

Dr Alison Morehead, First Assistant Secretary, Primary Care and Mental Health Division

Ms Emma Wood, Assistant Secretary, Mental Health Services Branch, Primary Care and Mental Health Division

Ms Emma Gleeson, Assistant Secretary, Mental Health for Children and Adolescents and Suicide Prevention Branch, Primary Care and Mental Health Division

Mrs Louise Riley, Acting Assistant Secretary, Primary Care, Dental and Palliative Care Branch, Primary Care and Mental Health Division

Mr Chris Bedford, Assistant Secretary, Primary Health Networks Branch, Primary Care and Mental Health Division

Mr Paul McBride, First Assistant Secretary, Health Economics and Research Division

Ms Natasha Ryan, Assistant Secretary, Primary Care Taskforce

Ms Maureen Lewis, Acting Chief Executive Officer, National Mental Health Commission

Ms Kim Eagle, Chief Operating Officer, National Mental Health Commission

Mr Mark Booth, Chief Executive Officer, Food Standards Australia New Zealand

Mr Peter May, General Manager, Food Safety and Corporate, Food Standards Australia New Zealand

Dr Scott Crerar, General Manager, Science and Risk Assessment, Food Standards Australia New Zealand

Mr James Downie, Chief Executive Officer, Independent Hospital Pricing Authority

Mr Shannon White, Chief Executive Officer, National Health Funding Body

Ms Nicole Jarvis, Assistant Secretary, Mental Health Services Branch, Primary Care and Mental Health Division

Ms Erica Kneipp, Assistant Secretary, Office of Health and Medical Research, Health Economics and Research Division

Ms Elizabeth Flynn, Assistant Secretary, Preventative Health Policy Branch, Population Health and Sport Division

Mr David Laffan, Assistant Secretary, Alcohol, Tobacco and Other Drugs Branch, Population Health and Sport Division

Outcome 3

Ms Lyndall Soper, First Assistant Secretary, Population Health and Sport Division

Mr Andrew Godkin, Sports Integrity Adviser, National Integrity of Sport Unit, Population Health and Sport Division

Ms Kate Palmer, Chief Executive Officer, Sport Australia

Mr Robert Medlicott, Deputy Director, Australian Institute of Sport Operations, Australian Institute of Sport

Ms Louise Eyres, General Manager, Marketing, Customer Insights and Analytics, Sport Australia

Ms Renee O’Callaghan, Acting General Manager, Corporate Operations, Sport Australia

Mr Peter Dunlop, Acting Chief Financial Officer, Corporate Operations, Sport Australia

Mr Robin O’Neill, Executive Director, Sport Business, Sport Australia

Mr David Sharpe, Chief Executive Officer, Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority

Mr Darren Mullaly, Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Legal, Education and Corporate, Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority

Ms Rebecca Tyler, Chief Financial Officer, Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority

Ms Narelle Smith, Assistant Secretary, Office of Sport, Population Health and Sport Division

Outcome 4

Ms Adriana Platona, First Assistant Secretary, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Ms Lisa La Rance, Assistant Secretary, Pricing and PBS Policy Branch, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Ms Louise Clarke, Assistant Secretary, Office of Health Technology Assessment—Policy Branch, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Dr Harry Rothenfluh, Assistant Secretary, Office of Health Technology Assessment—Assessment Branch, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Ms Natasha Ploenges, Acting Assistant Secretary, Pharmacy Branch, Technology Assessment and Access Division

Mr David Weiss, First Assistant Secretary, Medical Benefits Division

Mr Andrew Simpson, Assistant Secretary, Medicare Reviews Unit, Medical Benefits Division

Ms Celia Street, Assistant Secretary, Diagnostic Imaging and Pathology Branch, Medical Benefits Division

Mr Michael Ryan, Acting Assistant Secretary, MBS Policy and Specialist Services Branch, Medical Benefits Division

Ms Susan Azmi, Acting Assistant Secretary, Private Health Insurance Branch, Medical Benefits Division

Mr Simon Cotterell, First Assistant Secretary, Provider Benefits Integrity Division

Mr Anthony Millgate, Assistant Secretary, Compliance Systems Branch, Provider Benefits Integrity Division

Ms Tiali Goodchild, Assistant Secretary, Compliance Targeting Branch, Provider Benefits Integrity Division

Mrs Louise Riley, Acting Assistant Secretary, Primary Care, Dental and Palliative Care Branch, Primary Care and Mental Health Division

Mr Charles Maskell-Knight, Principal Adviser, Long Term Health Reform Taskforce

Outcome 5

Ms Sharon Appleyard, First Assistant Secretary, Office of Health Protection

Dr Gary Lum AM, Principal Medical Adviser, Office of Health Protection

Ms Rhonda Owen, Assistant Secretary, Health Emergency Management Branch, Office of Health Protection

Ms Sarah Norris, Assistant Secretary, Health Protection Policy Branch, Office of Health Protection

Dr Masha Somi, Assistant Secretary, Immunisation Branch, Office of Health Protection

Ms Gillian Shaw, Assistant Secretary, Regulatory Policy Branch, Office of Health Protection

Mr Chris Carlile, Assistant Secretary, STI Enhanced Response Unit, Office of Health Protection

Adjunct Professor Tim Greenaway, Chief Medical Adviser, Health Products Regulation Group

Ms Jenny Francis, Principal Legal and Policy Adviser, Health Products Regulation Group

Dr Jane Cook, Acting First Assistant Secretary, Medicines Regulation Division, Health Products Regulation Group

Ms Tracey Duffy, Acting First Assistant Secretary, Medical Devices and Product Quality Division, Health Products Regulation Group

Ms Gillian Mitchell, First Assistant Secretary, Regulatory Practice and Support Division, Health Products Regulation Group

Mr George Masri, Assistant Secretary, Regulatory Services and Drug Control Branch, Health Products Regulation Group

Dr Raj Bhula, Gene Technology Regulator, Office of the Gene Technology Regulator

Outcome 6

Ms Maria Jolly, First Assistant Secretary, Aged Care Reform and Compliance Division

Ms Amy Laffan, Assistant Secretary, Aged Care Quality and Regulatory Reform Branch, Aged Care Reform and Compliance Division

Ms Emma Jobson, Assistant Secretary, Aged Care Compliance Branch, Aged Care Reform and Compliance Division

Ms Helen Grinbergs, Acting First Assistant Secretary, Aged Care Royal Commission Taskforce

Mr Jaye Smith, First Assistant Secretary, Residential and Flexible Aged Care Division

Mr Graeme Barden, Assistant Secretary, Residential and Flexible Care Branch, Residential and Flexible Aged Care Division

Ms Jo Mond, Assistant Secretary, Dementia and Supported Ageing Branch, Residential and Flexible Aged Care Division

Mr Nigel Murray, Assistant Secretary, Funding Policy and Prudential Branch, Residential and Flexible Aged Care Division

Ms Fiona Buffinton, First Assistant Secretary, In Home Aged Care Division

Ms Valerie Spencer, Assistant Secretary, Aged Care Access Branch, In Home Aged Care Division

Mr Travis Haslam, Assistant Secretary, Home Care Branch, In Home Aged Care Division

Mr Nick Morgan, Assistant Secretary, Home Support and Assessment Branch, In Home Aged Care Division

Mr Nick Ryan, Chief Executive Officer, Australian Aged Care Quality Agency

Ms Christina Bolger, Executive Director, Regulatory Policy and Performance, Australian Aged Care Quality Agency

Ms Pamela Christie, Executive Director, Industry Engagement and Communication, Australian Aged Care Quality Agency

Ms Ann Wunsch, Executive Director, Operations, Australian Aged Care Quality Agency

Ms Rae Lamb, Australian Aged Care Complaints Commissioner

Committee met at 09:02

CHAIR ( Senator Gichuhi ): I declare open this meeting of the Community Affairs Legislation Committee on 24 October 2018. The Senate has referred to the committee the particulars of proposed expenditure for 2018-19 for the portfolios of Health and Social Services, including the Department of Human Services. The committee may also examine the annual reports of the departments and agencies appearing before it. The committee has fixed 6 December 2018 as the date for the return of answers to questions taken on notice. Senators, I might add that any written questions on notice should be provided to the committee secretariat by close of business on 1 November 2018.

The committee's proceedings today will begin with its examination of the Health portfolio, commencing with whole-of-portfolio and corporate matters. The committee will then continue with the Department of Health and other portfolio agencies as listed on the program. Under standing order 26, the committee must take all evidence in public session. This includes answers to questions on notice.

I remind all witnesses that, in giving evidence to the committee, they are protected by parliamentary privilege. It is unlawful for anyone to threaten or disadvantage a witness on account of evidence given to a committee, and such action may be treated by the Senate as contempt. It is also a contempt to give false or misleading evidence to the committee. The Senate, by resolution in 1999, endorsed the following test of relevance of questions at estimates hearings: any questions going to the operations of the financial position of departments and agencies which are seeking funds in estimates are relevant to the questions for the purposes of estimates hearings. I remind officers that the Senate has resolved that there are no areas in connection with expenditure of public funds where any person has discretion to withhold details or explanations from the parliament or its committees unless the parliament has expressly provided otherwise.

The Senate has resolved also that an officer of a department of the Commonwealth shall not be asked to give opinion on matters of policy and shall be given reasonable opportunity to refer questions asked of the officer to superior officers or to a minister. This resolution prohibits only questions asking for opinions on matters of policy and does not preclude questions asking for explanations of policies or factual questions about when and how policies were adopted. I particularly draw the attention of witnesses to an order of the Senate of 13 May 2009 specifying the process by which a claim of public interest immunity should be raised. Witnesses are specifically reminded that a statement that information or a document is confidential or consists of advice to government is not a statement that meets the requirements of the 2009 order. Instead, witnesses are required to provide some specific indication of the harm to the public interest that could result from disclosure of the information or the document.

The extract read as follows—

Public interest immunity claims

That the Senate—

(a) notes that ministers and officers have continued to refuse to provide information to Senate committees without properly raising claims of public interest immunity as required by past resolutions of the Senate;

(b) reaffirms the principles of past resolutions of the Senate by this order, to provide ministers and officers with guidance as to the proper process for raising public interest immunity claims and to consolidate those past resolutions of the Senate;

(c) orders that the following operate as an order of continuing effect:

(1) If:

(a) a Senate committee, or a senator in the course of proceedings of a committee, requests information or a document from a Commonwealth department or agency; and

(b) an officer of the department or agency to whom the request is directed believes that it may not be in the public interest to disclose the information or document to the committee, the officer shall state to the committee the ground on which the officer believes that it may not be in the public interest to disclose the information or document to the committee, and specify the harm to the public interest that could result from the disclosure of the information or document.

(2) If, after receiving the officer’s statement under paragraph (1), the committee or the senator requests the officer to refer the question of the disclosure of the information or document to a responsible minister, the officer shall refer that question to the minister.

(3) If a minister, on a reference by an officer under paragraph (2), concludes that it would not be in the public interest to disclose the information or document to the committee, the minister shall provide to the committee a statement of the ground for that conclusion, specifying the harm to the public interest that could result from the disclosure of the information or document.

(4) A minister, in a statement under paragraph (3), shall indicate whether the harm to the public interest that could result from the disclosure of the information or document to the committee could result only from the publication of the information or document by the committee, or could result, equally or in part, from the disclosure of the information or document to the committee as in camera evidence.

(5) If, after considering a statement by a minister provided under paragraph (3), the committee concludes that the statement does not sufficiently justify the withholding of the information or document from the committee, the committee shall report the matter to the Senate.

(6) A decision by a committee not to report a matter to the Senate under paragraph (5) does not prevent a senator from raising the matter in the Senate in accordance with other procedures of the Senate.

(7) A statement that information or a document is not published, or is confidential, or consists of advice to, or internal deliberations of, government, in the absence of specification of the harm to the public interest that could result from the disclosure of the information or document, is not a statement that meets the requirements of paragraph (1) or (4).

(8) If a minister concludes that a statement under paragraph (3) should more appropriately be made by the head of an agency, by reason of the independence of that agency from ministerial direction or control, the minister shall inform the committee of that conclusion and the reason for that conclusion, and shall refer the matter to the head of the agency, who shall then be required to provide a statement in accordance with paragraph (3).

(d) requires the Procedure Committee to review the operation of this order and report to the Senate by 20 August 2009.

(13 May 2009 J.1941)

(Extract, Senate Standing Orders)

I remind officers that opening statements should be brief, and offices may seek to incorporate longer opening statements into the committee Hansard.