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Thursday, 28 June 2018
Page: 4334


Senator RHIANNON (New South Wales) (13:45): You said that it's sabotage only if it damages infrastructure, but, Minister, we are in the committee stage. It's one of the very fine aspects of our parliaments, where we can actually explore the meaning of legislation. What you mean by 'damage' and what you mean by 'infrastructure' does need to be spelled out now. Is 'damage' actually breaking a machine so it doesn't function or does damage to infrastructure mean that somebody is sitting at the gates and part of that infrastructure can't be accessed? There is a clear responsibility as a minister looking after the legislation in this parliament: the public has a right to understand what this bill means. I think that should always be the case, but, considering the huge controversy that there has been around this issue, this is our opportunity for the government to get on the record what it means so that, when it's enacted—and, now we know that Labor's onboard, that's going to happen—there won't be doubt. At the moment, there is a lot of doubt. Could you actually spell out the answer to that, please?