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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 27/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE : Program 1--Budget development and management : Subprogram 1.1--Budget coordination : [Senate Estimates]

Senator PARER --I have a non-program specific question. The question is-- CHAIRMAN --Do you think that ought to be dealt with under Corporate Services? Senator PARER --Let me ask the question and we can see. I think it should be right at the beginning but we will see how we go. What services, if

Date: 27/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940527a_ecd.out/0006 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 27/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE : Program 2--Resource management framework : Subprogram 2.1--Resource management practices : [Senate Estimates]

Senator PARER --What services, if any, does the department provide on a cost recovery basis? Mr Barrett --I will wait for my colleague to come forward, Senator, but, to start off the answers to your question, there is a range of services. We have a small consultancy unit that is assisting departments in the

Date: 27/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940527a_ecd.out/0009 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 27/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE : Program 3--Government financial administration and services : Subprogram 3.3--Information technology policy and consultancy services : [Senate Estimates]

Senator PARER --Could you advise me what the total cost of the development of the Australian version of GOSIP was? Mr Barrett --The short answer is no, senator. That was a cost that was shared between the government and industry. I can say that industry contributed quite significantly to the ongoing development of

Date: 27/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940527a_ecd.out/0016 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 27/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE : Program 6--Asset sales : Subprogram 6.2--Commonwealth Task Force On Asset Sales B : [Senate Estimates]

Senator SHORT --Looking at the figures on page 11 for asset sales A, I take it that a bracket means receipt, in effect. The budget estimate was for receipt of $1.6 billion and the figure for the estimated outturn for this year is just $16 million. Is that a typo or what is

Date: 27/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940527a_ecd.out/0022 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 27/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE : Program 8--Australian National Audit Office : [Senate Estimates]

CHAIRMAN --Before Mr Barrett goes we might spend a few minutes at the end on the presentation issue. Is that okay? Senator PARER --One of the questions I intended to ask about the Audit Office really I wanted to direct to you. I wonder if I might raise it with you now and

Date: 27/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940527a_ecd.out/0027 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 27/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE : Program 8--Australian National Audit Office : Subprogram 8.1--Financial statement audits : [Senate Estimates]

Senator PARER --A key feature of the ANAO's portfolio budget measures statement is the statement that `the ANAO believes that the Financial Audit Business Unit will face difficulties in completing the 1993-94 and 1994-95 financial statement audit programs with the funds that will be provided'. I wonder whether you could expand on that statement

Date: 27/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940527a_ecd.out/0029 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 27/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE : Program 1--Budget development and management : Subprogram 1.1--Budget coordination : [Senate Estimates]

Mr Barrett --Mr Chairman, that is something that over a period of time we will have to look at. We have not appropriated on a program basis, as you are aware. There are some programs that do pretty well coincide with divisions or subdivisions, et cetera. There is a long history to the structures,

Date: 27/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940527a_ecd.out/0032 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 26/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY : Program 1--Economic policy : Subprogram 1.1--Macro-economic : [Senate Estimates]

Senator PARER --How did the Treasury calculate the business investment, plant and equipment forecasts as outlined in the budget? Senator Cook --Perhaps I should congratulate Senator Parer first of all on his new position in the shadow ministry, as announced this afternoon by the Leader of the Opposition. Senator PARER --The getting of

Date: 26/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940526a_ecd.out/0038 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 26/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY : Program 1--Economic policy : Subprogram 1.2--Structural : [Senate Estimates]

Senator GIBSON --Competition is a very important issue, particularly with regard to estimates of future economic growth in Australia. From its point of view, does Treasury have a view about the importance and the time frame of the implementation of the Hilmer report's recommendations about increasing competition through the Australian economy? Mr Borthwick --The Hilmer

Date: 26/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940526a_ecd.out/0040 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 26/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY : Program 1--Economic policy : Subprogram 1.3--Debt management : [Senate Estimates]

Senator GIBSON --Does Treasury have estimates of the Commonwealth's debt in its forward projections for the next four financial years? Mr Borthwick --No, there are no estimates in the budget papers over that projection period. Senator GIBSON --But do you have them internally, and could they be made available to this committee? Mr Borthwick

Date: 26/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940526a_ecd.out/0042 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 26/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY : Program 1--Economic policy : Subprogram 1.4--Taxation Policy : [Senate Estimates]

Senator PARER --Could you provide me with forward estimates of company tax revenue to 1997-98? Mr Borthwick --I do not have those. Mr Shogren --We do not have those. The only disaggregation of revenue projections that the government has produced are for individuals' tax and other tax and then non-tax revenue going out

Date: 26/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940526a_ecd.out/0044 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 26/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY : Program 3--Payments to or for other levels of government : Subprogram 3.1--Payments relating to general purpose revenue assistance : [Senate Estimates]

Senator GIBSON --Over recent years there has been an increasing trend towards states and territories receiving specific purpose grants as opposed to general purpose grants. Could you provide information on how the situation has changed in this current year and the projections for next financial year? Mr Jepsen --The proportion of special purpose payments

Date: 26/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940526a_ecd.out/0052 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 26/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY : Program 5--Australian Bureau of Statistics : Subprogram 5.1--Statistical operations : [Senate Estimates]

Senator GIBSON --At last year's hearings, Senator Parer raised the matter of ABS security. In a report by the audit office on certain aspects of ABS security, it was stated at the time that the ABS had accepted all the ANAO recommendations on improving security in the bureau. Three of them were subject to

Date: 26/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940526a_ecd.out/0055 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 26/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY : Program 6--Taxation administration : Subprogram 6.1--Income tax : [Senate Estimates]

Senator GIBSON --If I may start on the taxation administration, by way of background, the cost of collecting taxation has risen enormously. I quote the 1984 and 1994 figures: $296 million in 1984 to an estimate of $144 million in 1994; a staff increase from 13,000-odd to 17,000-odd; cost of salaries from $250-odd million

Date: 26/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940526a_ecd.out/0058 - Source: SENATE

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ESTIMATES COMMITTEE D : 26/05/1994 : DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY : Program 6--Taxation administration : Subprogram 6.2--Sales tax : [Senate Estimates]

Mr GIBSON --Minister, I refer to a leasing deal which a colleague of mine, Senator Campbell, raised in the Senate. It was between the Commonwealth Government and the Transport Workers Union under which 61 vehicles have been leased to the union and a total of more than $234,000 claimed by way of sales tax

Date: 26/05/1994 - Collection: Committees - ID: committees/estimate/ecomw940526a_ecd.out/0060 - Source: SENATE

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